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November 26, 2004
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Army Uses NASCAR in Recruiting Effort
 
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Nov 26, 8:25 AM (ET)

By JOHN MILBURN

(AP) Joe Nemechek reacts on pit row after he qualified at 191.318 mph Friday, Oct. 29, 2004, for...
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FORT RILEY, Kan. (AP) - Joe Nemechek is "G.I. Joe" to many NASCAR fans, a nickname stemming from the GoArmy.com logo on the hood and bumper of his Chevy Monte Carlo.

Every lap he leads and every pole he wins puts the Army in millions of living rooms nationwide.

Sponsoring Nemechek is part of a military recruiting strategy, which includes advertising at football games and rodeos, aimed at maintaining the all-volunteer force during the war in Iraq and the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

"We have to get the best young men and women in the Army to continue," said Tom Tiernan, a 22-year Army veteran who is now a civilian employee leading the marketing program.

The program's success is open to debate. A federal General Accounting Office report concluded last year that the military - even though its advertising spending rose from $299 million in 1998 to $598 million in 2003 - couldn't truly evaluate such campaigns because "joining the military is a profound life decision."

That was true for Pvt. Shannon Cooke, 19, of Newport News, Va., who joined the Army to follow a family tradition.

"My mother was in the Army; I always knew I wanted to come," said Cooke, with Fort Riley's 24th Infantry Division.

But the logos on Nemechek's car helped coax Pvt. Terrence Bartholomew, also with the 24th Infantry, to enlist in February. The 22-year-old from New Orleans acknowledged he's not really a NASCAR fan but, "I saw the car two times on TV."

Nemechek said he tells the recruits he meets they are doing a great honor for their country.

"I'm trying to do the best job I can on the track to give them something to pull for," said Nemechek, who put the Army car in the winner's circle in October at the Banquet 400 at Kansas Speedway.

After missing recruiting goals, the Army launched a program in 2000 to transform its image. The branch wants to be seen as an attractive career, Tiernan said, and "not just for those who have no other viable option in life."

The program began with the National Hot Rod Association, sponsoring Tony "The Sarge" Schumacher. The Army sponsors a national high school football all-star game each January in Texas, a contest broadcast on NBC-TV. This year, the Army started pouring dollars into professional rodeo and bull riding events, as well as a bull-riding team.

Sports marketing now consumes $40 million of the Army's $212 million annual advertising budget in an era when finding new soldiers can be tough.

"As the economy gets better, there will be more competition for the kids," Tiernan said.

Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton, the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, said the sponsorships are "absolutely" appropriate for the military."

"It's a matter of striking a responsive chord," Skelton said. "You will not find them at golf tournaments."

The Army met its 2004 goal of recruiting 77,000 new soldiers in the 12 months ending Sept. 30. Other branches fell short, including a fellow NASCAR Nextel Cup sponsor, the Army National Guard.

Richard Stark, a military analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said the military has to be flexible in recruiting and offering benefits to reflect the times.

He views the military as competing successfully for recruits but added frequent deployments by the Army and its reserves are likely to affect retention and recruiting in coming years.

Each branch is involved with NASCAR. The Marine Corps has a $46 million advertising budget and spends $3.5 million to sponsor a car in NASCAR's Busch Series. The Air Force has a $2 million deal with Nextel Cup driver Ricky Rudd and invests $100,000 in a professional snowmobile team.

Tiernan declined to disclose exactly how much Nemechek's sponsorship cost the Army but said it was less than $10 million.

Maj. Dave Geiesmer, a spokesman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command in Quantico, Va., estimated that its NASCAR sponsorship provides the same exposure as $15 million in television advertising.

"We get value every time the car is mentioned," he said.

The Army has a traveling exhibition for NASCAR events, filling four semitrailers and covering 12,000 square feet, giving recruits a version of shock and awe.

Visitors can view the latest Army equipment, including uniforms and weapons, said Guy Morgan, Army account director. Other activities include laser target shooting and a challenge involving changing tires on a stock car.

Everyone who enters the exhibition area must sign a liability form, which also generates some leads for the Army, Morgan said.

At all events, the Army also hopes to meet parents who may be reluctant about their children enlisting.

"When senior officers are out there, they can talk to parents and tell them that the Army will do everything possible to protect their sons and daughters," Tiernan said.

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On the Net:

Army recruiting: http://www.goarmy.com

General Accounting Office: http://www.gao.gov

 

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=25018
LinesInTheSand
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(Today, 09:19 AM)
 
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Attention Black Friday Shoppers, I hate you. #1

About to leave for work :(

To all shoppers today, I hope you die a horrible death at the hands of a torturing psycho.

Have a nice day
karasu
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(Today, 09:21 AM)
 
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#2

Man, people were sleeping in their cars outside of Super Kmart. It's craaaaaaazy.
Fifty
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(Today, 09:22 AM)
 
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#3
Miguel
(Today, 09:22 AM)
 
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#4

Bwahahaha. I'm heading out in about an hour. I'm not buying anything, I'm taking my cousin to buy some DVDs. I'm just a sadistic weirdo wanting to grab a bunch of the "hot item" and then place them around like bait and wait for the hounds to find it...and attack each other for them.

There's a risk involved...yes...but it's one I'm willing to take for a few hours of fun.

That and I'll be watching my cousin's DVDs later in the day.
Mama Smurf
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(Today, 09:23 AM)
 
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#5

Please tell me Black Friday doesn't happen in Canada, I have to go buy some stuff tomorrow.
Fifty
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(Today, 09:26 AM)
 
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#6

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:
Please tell me Black Friday doesn't happen in Canada, I have to go buy some stuff tomorrow.

No, it doesn't. I always thought you were British..
Mama Smurf
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(Today, 09:27 AM)
 
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#7

I am, just in Vancouver for a year.

And thank god for that.
Raoul Duke
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(Today, 09:29 AM)
 
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#8

Ugh. I have to stay awake for another hour and a half, so I can get a 160 gig hard drive for like $40. Fortunately, it's too cold to sleep.
MrAngryFace
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(Today, 09:37 AM)
 
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#9

Yeah I work today too. I hate fucking shoppers after thanksgiving. God fuck stay home you stupid greedy fattened fucks.
Seth C
Second Fiddle
(Today, 10:03 AM)
#10

I just want the laptop from Best Buy. Someone leave me one, please.
Socreges
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(Today, 10:09 AM)
#11

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:
I am, just in Vancouver for a year.

And thank god for that.

Thank God you're in Vancouver, or that it's just a year?

You're not having a very good time here, I wager.
Miguel
(Today, 11:39 AM)
 
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#12

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.htm...asin=0823916839

The Black Friday Deal to end all Black Friday Deals
The Faceless Master
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(Today, 12:07 PM)
 
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#13

Originally Posted by Miguel:
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.htm...asin=0823916839

The Black Friday Deal to end all Black Friday Deals

if only that were something i would actually use...
The Bookerman
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(Today, 01:07 PM)
 
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#14

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:
Please tell me Black Friday doesn't happen in Canada, I have to go buy some stuff tomorrow.



No but Boxing day is a lot like Black Friday, except there's less psychos.

Boxing day @ future shop is always a great day.
evil ways
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(Today, 02:05 PM)
 
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#15

I was gonna go buy a few DVDs but saw live footage of my local mall in the news and it looked bad. Place was apparently so crowded that there were lines outside the stores with people waiting to get in.
alejob
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(Today, 03:39 PM)
 
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#16

I just got back from Staples and Best Buy. I got nothing, everything was gone. Lines that go to the back of the store. Bah! I decided to look on the web for a good deal.
SKluck
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(Today, 03:45 PM)
 
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#17

If you aren't there in the line before the store opens, you are fucked.

If you are there in the line before the store opens, you are a loser, you are fucked.
Crimson Dragon
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(Today, 03:53 PM)
#18

This is the absolute one day I will not leave the house. I hate stupid people, I hate crowds, I hate stupid drivers and I hate lines. No thanks. The sales and the savings on this day are not worth all that trouble. I'd rather spend more money on something than get out in this mess.
Outcast2004
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(Today, 03:57 PM)
#19

I'm abou 16 shades of fucked today, I work my office job from 8 to 4, then get an hours rest and then head in KB Toys to work from 6 to FUCKING MIDNIGHT! Ergh.

I hate all you BF shoppers. Here's a tip, shop earlier! I'll have to deal with all the rude-ass soccer moms today and am not thrilled by it. Hope there's at least the hot, flirty chic working the cell phone stand tonight.
SSGMUN10000
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(Today, 04:24 PM)
#20

I was about to go out in the wild this morning, I even woke up early but then common sense took over and went back to sleep. Ill do some shopping tomorrow when its a bit more civilized.
White Man
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(Today, 04:27 PM)
 
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#21

Ugh, I work from 1 until 10 today. It's like getting hit by the worst parts of a storm.
OmniGamer
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(Today, 04:38 PM)
 
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#22

Well, got my Simpsons Season 4 DVD for $17.77 at Target this morning....total time spent on line: 32mins 41 secs. Worth it since the line was fast, i'm broke, and to see the general chaos and listen in on people's cell phone convos.
mj1108
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(Today, 05:11 PM)
#23

Got my 160gig HD from Staples this morning. Went to WalMart after to laugh at the people fighting over merchandise. Then went to Burger King for breakfast and now I'm home.
Azih
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(Today, 05:23 PM)
#24

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:
I am, just in Vancouver for a year.

And thank god for that.

Yeah it sounds like you're not liking the Canadian experience?
jobber
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(Today, 05:27 PM)
 
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#25

I work from 4-11 today. If I don't come back, I was killed with a self inflicted beef stick to the heart.
Dram
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(Today, 05:33 PM)
#26

Went to EB this morning, to get some deals on games. I get there at 6:45 because the ad said they opened at 7am, but the guy didn't show up till 7:20, and then I had to wait till 7:35 before he opened the store. I had to duck and weave through the crowd because everyone and their mother decided to show up.

I finally get in line, which is long and full of angry people, and had to wait forty minutes because the people they have working there are slow as hell. I finally get my games at 8:30, and I'm on my way home; when I get home at 8:49 I open the cases and find out there's no games inside of them. So now I have to wait till 3:00pm so I can go back and get my games.

Long story short Black Friday sales suck and I'm doing the rest of my Christmas shopping online.
GG-Duo
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(Today, 06:03 PM)
 
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#27

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:
I am, just in Vancouver for a year.

And thank god for that.


Boxing day!

 

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=25032
cja
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(Today, 03:30 PM)
 
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mcv - PS3 concerns ignite Xbox 2 support #1

Starts with Tecmo's publicly stated concerns but then quotes sources from two other, unnamed, Japanese publishers who're thinking likewise.

Quote:
“There is a lot of uncertainty amongst Japanese companies that Sony is unsure of what direction to take with PS3,” said a senior figure at a major Japanese developer and publisher. “Everyone’s business model has traditionally been built around Sony hardware, but given the lack of info, people are nervous about putting all of their eggs in one basket.”

Quote:
“If we ask Sony technical questions, we don’t hear back for four-to-six weeks; Microsoft answers (Xbox 2) queries there and then.”

Quote:
“The vibe between most of the major parties was: ‘Is PlayStation such a safe bet? Maybe we should take Xbox 2 more seriously’

Quote:
“With Microsoft there’s a clearer indication of what’s going on – Sony is being sketchy about a lot of things. We’re now planning joint releases on PS3 and Xbox 2 for next-gen, where we have always lead on PlayStation hardware in the past.”

Link
Notorious
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(Today, 03:35 PM)
 
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Spike
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(Today, 03:35 PM)
 
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#3

Umm...

Cancel your PS3 preorders, it's all over?
DSN2K
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(Today, 03:38 PM)
 
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#4

SELL YOUR DEV KITS, ITS ALL OVER!

but seriously Konami, Square Enix will back Sony regardless.
Prine
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(Today, 03:42 PM)
 
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#5

i dont really like bad Sony news, but i do like good MS news. So YAY!!

Xbox had so much potential in Japan, i would have loved to see what some devs would be able to accomplish on the sustem, i only hope they give Xbox2 a fair shot.

MS need to dish out the bucks to SquareEnix to provide some killer content.
naz
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(Today, 03:43 PM)
 
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#6

I freaken hate how Nintendo is always left out :p
Hellraizah
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(Today, 03:44 PM)
 
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#7

I will support the Xenon from day 1.
Those who won't will burn in hell.
PG2G
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(Today, 03:45 PM)
#8

I hope Xenon does do better in Japan this time. The more competition the better ^^
ge-man
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(Today, 03:45 PM)
 
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#9

Originally Posted by naz:
I freaken hate how Nintendo is always left out :p


It's only natural considering that most don't know what the hell they're doing either. MS is the only one that has presented clear next gen plan.
mumu
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(Today, 03:46 PM)
 
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#10

Tecmo says sth. and people piss their pants. PS2 practically launched with utter crap, was overpriced, and it still flew of the shelves like crazy! People are forgetting about the Playstation brand and the wonders SONY marketing can do.
Azih
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(Today, 03:47 PM)
#11

Plus MS is going all out with the 'ease of development' idea, which was Nintendo's hype for developers at the start of this gen.
king zell
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(Today, 03:48 PM)
 
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#12

Revolution is the safe bet

they all know it!
Azih
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(Today, 03:48 PM)
#13

Originally Posted by mumu:
Tecmo says sth. and people piss their pants. PS2 practically launched with utter crap, was overpriced, and it still flew of the shelves like crazy! People are forgetting about the Playstation brand and the wonders SONY marketing can do.
Brand is one of the most important things, but it's not an automatic win. Just this generation we saw the SEGA brand die, and the Nintendo brand continue to diminish.
mumu
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(Today, 03:52 PM)
 
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#14

That's true, but what kind of brand does MS have in Japan? I don't think the japanese can all of a sudden be convinced to buy a gaijin console (or devs to develop for it for that matter), but to be honest what the hell do i know

Also don't underestimate SONY marketing. I don't like it either but they are sneaky bastards.

Last edited by mumu : Today at 03:56 PM.
psycho_snake
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(Today, 03:53 PM)
 
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#15

I really feel sorry for Nintendo, its like they dont even exist in the same market.
jedimike
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(Today, 03:53 PM)
 
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#16

Originally Posted by PG2G:
I hope Xenon does do better in Japan this time. The more competition the better ^^


As gamers, the best we can hope for is atleast 2 strong competitors. It surely saved us a shitload of money this gen and drove developers to "one-up" their competitors.

I hope MS gains a lot more marketshare with Xenon, but at the same time I want Sony and/or Nintendo to be equally successful.
almokla
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(Today, 03:54 PM)
 
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#17

Originally Posted by king zell:
Revolution is the safe bet

they all know it!



thats why they don't take it seriously ? lol

seriously though, its like Nintendo is not there !! its all about XB2 and PS3 .. it makes me SICK
ge-man
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(Today, 03:55 PM)
 
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#18

Originally Posted by Azih:
Brand is one of the most important things, but it's not an automatic win. Just this generation we saw the SEGA brand die, and the Nintendo brand continue to diminish.


That's good thing to keep in mind at all times. I'm sure almost everyone thought that Nintendo was indestructible after the SNES. Sony's name isn't destructible, and right now they are taking on couple of big risks with the PSP and Cell. It's very possible for MS to finally move to the head of the pack or for Nintendo reclaim their throne (if they can get their shit together) if Sony finds themselves having made the wrong moves.
Sho Nuff
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(Today, 03:56 PM)
 
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#19

Originally Posted by mumu:
Tecmo says sth. and people piss their pants. PS2 practically launched with utter crap, was overpriced, and it still flew of the shelves like crazy! People are forgetting about the Playstation brand and the wonders SONY marketing can do.


PSP is clearly going to be the mother of all clusterfucks, but IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT WILL BE THE HOTTEST SHIT EVER BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH OF THEM TO GO AROUND.

And the PS2 might have sucked at launch, but nobody's bitching about that now...
gogogow
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(Today, 03:57 PM)
#20

Quote:
It's only natural considering that most don't know what the hell they're doing either. MS is the only one that has presented clear next gen plan.


About this whole PS3 concern, starting with the Tecmo bullshit, PS3 will be released in mid-late 2006. Ofcourse you won't hear their plans, yet.
Xbox 2 is a different story, it will be released somewhere in 2005, the first next-gen console to be released.
It was the same with the PS2, Sony had not released any info until 1999, 1 year prior to it's release. Ofcourse dev kits were send out earlier, same now with PS3.

Quote:
“If we ask Sony technical questions, we don’t hear back for four-to-six weeks; Microsoft answers (Xbox 2) queries there and then.”

Ofcourse MS answers quickly, they want better relations with Japanese developers.
Azih
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(Today, 04:00 PM)
#21

Originally Posted by mumu:
That's true, but what kind of brand does MS has in Japan? I don't think the japanese can all of a sudden be convinced to buy a gaijin console, but to b