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November 24, 2004

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Cell phone batteries explode, causing recalls

WASHINGTON - Curtis Sathre said it was like a bomb going off. His 13-year-old son Michael stood stunned, his ears ringing, hand gushing blood and body covered in black ash.

In a split second last August, fragments from Michael's exploding cell phone had hit him between the eyes and lodged in the ceiling of the family's home in Oceanside, Calif.

Over the past two years, federal safety officials have received 83 reports of cell phones exploding or catching fire, usually because of incompatible, faulty or counterfeit batteries or chargers. Burns to the face, neck, leg and hip are among the dozens of injury reports the agency has received.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission is providing tips for cell phone users to avoid such accidents and has stepped up oversight of the wireless industry. There have been three voluntary battery recalls, and the CPSC is working with companies to create better battery standards.

"CPSC is receiving more and more reports of incidents involving cell phones, and we're very concerned of the potential for more serious injuries or more fires," said agency spokesman Scott Wolfson.

U.S. phone makers and carriers say most fires and explosions are caused by counterfeit batteries and note that in a country with about 170 million cell phone users, the number of accidents is extremely low.

"Is it a problem? It has turned up, you bet. But statistically it is extraordinarily rare," said John Walls, spokesman for the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. "But the fact that it has happened certainly has the industry's attention."

Some consumer advocates say the cause goes beyond bad batteries making their way to the market. They point to the increasing pressure on battery and phone makers to fit more capabilities into small instruments.

"If you're cramming more and more power in a small space, what you're making is a small bomb," said Carl Hilliard, president of the California-based Wireless Consumers Alliance, which has been tracking incidents of cell phone fires and explosions.

Though legitimate batteries can go wrong, there is a greater chance that poorly made, counterfeit ones will lack safety devices to detect overheating or overcharging. The lithium-ion batteries found in most cell phones can overheat if, for example, heat vents are covered.

The CPSC is trying to determine if improved venting is enough by itself to ensure safety. "We have seen temperatures as high as 600 degrees, and you can have a torchlike effect if these batteries don't function properly," Wolfson said.

The commission has announced three battery recalls since January, one from Verizon Wireless and two from Kyocera Wireless Corp. Kyocera's first recall was blamed on a supplier whose standards had slipped. The other recalls were attributed to suppliers bringing counterfeits into distribution chains.

Kyocera, which recalled 1 million batteries last month, said it has changed vendors and doubled efforts to test its own batteries.

Hoping to address problems that may lie beyond their supply lines, members of the wireless industry began collaborating last week with the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), a standard-setting organization, to create voluntary design and performance standards for all batteries.

"There needs to be high-quality batteries for these cell phones. You have a lot of power in a very small product, so it's really key," said Wolfson of the CPSC, which is participating in the meetings between wireless industry members and IEEE.

Carriers and manufacturers also are urging cellular users to exercise reasonable care of batteries, chargers and phones and to buy them directly from phone companies rather than secondhand dealers or off the Internet.

But even following those recommendations sometimes isn't enough, as bad products inevitably find their way onto store shelves.



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Copyright © The Billings Gazette, a division of Lee Enterprises.

 

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AP: Budget Has Room for Special Projects

 
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By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Austerity in big-ticket government programs hasn't dulled lawmakers' appetite for special interest spending items that curry favor back home.

 

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The spending plan awaiting President Bush (news - web sites)'s signature is packed with them, doling out $4 million for an Alabama fertilizer development center, $1 million each for a Norwegian American Foundation in Seattle and a "Wild American Shrimp Initiative," and more, much more.

 

Despite soaring deficits, lawmakers from both parties who approved the $388 billion package last weekend set plenty of money aside for home-district projects like these, knowing they sow goodwill among special interests and voters.

 

They also raised the ire of Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., a pork-barrel critic who took to the Senate floor to ask whether shrimp are so unruly and lacking initiative that the government must spend $1 million on them.

 

"Why does the U.S. taxpayer need to fund this `no shrimp left behind' act?" he asked.

 

Among items in the package: $335,000 to protect North Dakota's sunflowers from blackbirds, $2.3 million for an animal waste management research lab in Bowling Green, Ky., $50,000 to control wild hogs in Missouri, and $443,000 to develop salmon-fortified baby food.

 

Sen. Richard Shelby (news, bio, voting record), an Alabama Republican who serves on the Senate Appropriations Committee, won dozens of special items for his state — enough to fill 20 press releases.

 

In one aimed at northern Alabama, Shelby took credit for the $4 million budgeted for the International Fertilizer Development Center. "In addition to the important research conducted at this facility, the facility employs numerous Muscle Shoals-area residents," he noted.

 

Government watchdog Frank Clemente contends such special spending — often based more on a lawmaker's clout on appropriations committees than on objective factors such as a state's population — winds up costing even those who win a new road, park or research project.

 

"I think that's the biggest unfortunate thing about these special earmarks — they eat up billions of dollars," said Clemente, spokesman for Public Citizen. "Meanwhile they're cutting billions of dollars for environmental programs, or education programs or cops on the beat or what have you. That's kind of the unintended effect or the secret effect of these programs."

 

The time-honored practice flourished despite the ballooning national debt, less money for federal programs and rising concern about how government will finance the futures of Medicare and Social Security (news - web sites).

 

When Bush first took office, he vowed to cut pet projects from the federal budget, but the president has yet to veto a single spending bill. He is expected to sign the new plan as well.

 

Within hours of the spending bill's passage, lawmakers were touting the projects they brought home to constituents — a reminder that in federal budgets what is derided as pork-barrel spending by one constituency can be embraced by another as local assistance.

 

Missouri Republican Sens. Kit Bond and Jim Talent and Republican Rep. Jo Ann Emerson (news, bio, voting record) on Monday announced federal money for three-dozen projects in southern Missouri, including $50,000 for wild-hog control.

 

Ohio Reps. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a Democrat, and Steven LaTourette, a Republican, boasted about $350,000 for music education programs at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland.

 

Nicole Williams, a spokeswoman for Tubbs Jones, said another lawmaker requested the money but Tubbs Jones supported it. With a deficit in Cleveland's public school system and music education among the programs getting cut, the museum aid could benefit the city as a whole, Williams said.

 

Alaska Republican Sens. Lisa Murkowski and Ted Stevens claimed credit for channeling federal money to the state's salmon industry, including money to research use of salmon as a base for baby food.

 

   

 

 

"The goal is to increase the market for salmon by encouraging the production of more `value-added' salmon products," Murkowski's office said.

Michigan's two Democratic senators, Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow, let it be known they had won $4 million for an environmentally friendly public transportation system in Traverse City.

Many of the special items that made the cut were promoted by lobbyists hired by interest groups, companies or communities to convince lawmakers money was needed for their projects.

"No, a bike trail in X, Y, Z part of the country doesn't benefit the country as a whole, but the people in that district or community (also) put their money into the pot," said Jim Albertine, a lobbyist who successfully pressed for research and development money for the superconductor industry.

The targeted spending was so prolific that McCain had no problem filling a half-hour speech with examples. The shrimp program really stuck in his craw.

"I am hoping that the appropriators could explain to me why we need $1 million for this — are American shrimp unruly and lacking initiative?" he asked.

McCain's query went unanswered, in part because spending documents don't identify who proposed each item or why.

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On the Net:

Congress' conference report on the budget: http://www.house.gov/rules/stmgrh4818ttext1.htm

Public Citizen: http://www.publiccitizen.org/

 

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Canada: Marijuana use doubled over past decade #1

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OTTAWA - The number of Canadians using marijuana appears to have doubled over the past decade, according to the first major study of drug and alcohol use in the country in 10 years.

The Canadian Addiction Survey reports that 14 per cent of Canadians said they had used cannabis in the past year, up from 7.4 per cent in 1994.

The survey found that 45 per cent of Canadians have used marijuana at least once in their lifetime. About 70 per cent of those aged 18 to 24 reported using the substance.

The study found the use of cocaine and crack also rose from 0.7 per cent in 1994 to 1.9 per cent in 2004.

Overall, it found that the use of illicit drugs by Canadians at least once in their lifetime rose from 28.5 per cent in 1994 to to 45 per cent in 2004.


Drinking stats on the rise

The number of those who reported drinking alcohol in the past 12 months rose to 79.3 per cent in 2004 from 72.3 per cent in 1994.

More men than women drank booze in the past 12 months (82 per cent to 76.8 per cent). The survey found that 90 per cent of people aged 18 to 24 drank alcohol in that time period.



I believe this news, I only know a handful of people who haven't tried weed (around my age that is).
explodet
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Well, the number of people in this country who have stopped smoking cigarettes has gone down significantly - they had to go SOMEWHERE.
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mac
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So by the end of the next decade the nation will be a cesspool of hedonism?
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The study even shows a sharp increase in marijuana use by children between the ages of 1 to 3.

WHAT
firex
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#6

Time to change the leaf that's on the flag...

 

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=24845
sonycowboy
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Will the iPod crush the PSP? (23.5 Million iPods expected by 2006) #1

How important is the multifunctionality to the success of the PSP?

In the past 12 months, the iPod has experience sales growth that is incredible and has cemented iself as THE portable music player. Has Sony missed the boat? Is the PSP coming too late to cause much of a stir with it's MP3 capability, or is it minimally important to the PSP's sucess?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?...Apo&refer=japan

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/inde...age=1&pagePos=1

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Apple Deepens Sony's Woes as `Cute' iPod Takes Off in Japan

Nov. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Juliana Sasaki didn't bother checking out Sony Corp.'s digital music player in Tokyo before buying her green iPod mini.

``I knew Sony and other companies had MP3 players, but they can't beat the mini,'' says Sasaki, 23, a language teacher. ``I went straight to the Apple store. The mini is so cute.''

In Japan, home to four of the five top electronics companies by sales, advance orders made Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod mini the top-selling portable player three weeks before its July 24 release. It still is.

Tokyo-based Sony Corp.'s embarrassment at Apple's hands is another setback for the company that in 1979 invented the world's first portable music player, the Walkman. Sony's profit from consumer electronics has fallen in five of the past six years as Sharp Corp. and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. grabbed the digital initiative with flat-screen televisions and DVD players.

...

Sony Chief Financial Officer Katsumi Ihara lamented Apple's jump on the company in a September interview.

``Our personal audio business isn't performing to our expectations -- partly because of iPod, which has become a fashion,'' Ihara said. ``We must avoid having Apple take over our image in the personal audio category. We must fight back.''
 


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EXCLUSIVE: 'iPod sales hit 23.5 million by 2006' - analyst

By Jonny Evans

A leading Wall Street analyst expects 100 million Windows users to own iPods by 2008.

In a 27-page note released to clients, Needham & Co. analyst Charles Wolf revealed that, when such critical mass is achieved, "Mac sales could surge if only a nominal fraction of this group make a purchase."

While Apple has remained tight-lipped concerning claims that it intends releasing a flash-based iPod, Wolf says: "Although we expect hard drive players to capture an increasing share of the portable music player market, flash players should dominate the market through 2006."
...

Conservative assessments

Wolf's analysis and raised target price are not dependent on an iPod halo effect, nor on Apple maintaining an 80 per cent share in the hard drive-based music player market and 70 per cent of the music download market. Nor does it depend on any future iPod flash product release.

Wolf also describes Apple's online and brick-&-mortar retail stores as "the unsung heroes of the Apple story".

In fact, Wolf's account relies on the assumption that a truly competitive product will debut on the market, and that Apple's share will slide to 60 per cent. He predicts that Apple will be able to compete with that future challenge on price, because it will be able to benefit from economies of scale, attracting lower production costs than competitors can access, due to iPod's massive sales volume.

PC installation on the rise

Wolf estimates that the installed base of personal computers could reach 1.3 billion by 2010. And he believes that, since a PC is required to use an iPod or other music player, such continued consumer take-up will propel sales.

"Our analysis indicates that the installed base of portable music players could approach 500 million by 2010, equivalent to a 7 per cent penetration rate of the worlds population."

The Microsoft choice 'ignores reality'

Microsoft argues that consumers want choice in their online music purchases, and will eventually favour non-Apple devices. Wolf declares that the Redmond company's assessment, "ignores reality".

Wolf does not believe music lovers care about music formats when they buy songs, and that most songs are ripped from CDs or downloaded elsewhere. He argues that consumers don't care which online service they use, as long as it has what they want and is compatible with their device, and adds that content will not drive a single standard service to emerge, as music content will be identically-available on multiple services.

"There are no compelling economic reasons why Microsoft’s Windows Media Audio music software platform should end up dominating this market just because it’s been adopted by a host of online music stores and music players", he writes.

"In our opinion, the only way Windows Media could emerge as the dominant platform is if Apple stops innovating its iTunes software and the iPod," he states.

Simply the best

"We’re forecasting iPod sales of 23.5 million units in 2006," Wolf adds.

 
M3wThr33
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The iPod has 3 to 5 times the battery life and includes a 20-60GB HDD while the PSP will be lucky to get a 2GB Memory Stick for all the same price.

Trust me, I prefer my iPod to any gaming device that's confused about it's prime directive.

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Wolf does not believe music lovers care about music formats when they buy songs, and that most songs are ripped from CDs or downloaded elsewhere.

The iPod would have failed if it didn't support mp3s. P2P, whether you use it or not, is the main driving force behind it.

Of course, right now my iPod is playing a song I got off of iTunes.
naz
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Sony should have stuck with Music so Apple would not be smokin' that ass

Still logic says PSPs and iPods are NOT in the same game
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#4

What's the relationship between an hard disk based MP3 player and a handheld console like the PSP?
PSP is a gaming console that allows to do other things but a person interested only in portable music won't certainly prefer the PSP over the Ipod.
It's Sony's portable music division that has to fight with Ipod creating new appealing products not SCE.
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Oh, and my stance on the mini is that it's for ignorant women and people who don't care about wasting money. $50 gets you 5 times the space for rougly the same size device. (YES, they are DAMN close. If you don't believe me, go to Target and look at the pamphlets!)

Edit:
Another note:
People aren't buying the iPod because of Music Quiz, Solitare and the useless junk. They buy it because it has style and plays music like nothing else.
naz
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When I want a spoon I don't reach for a Swiss Army Knife... So I do not understand why we would even compare PSP to iPod
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Originally Posted by naz:
When I want a spoon I don't reach for a Swiss Army Knife... So I do not understand why we would even compare PSP to iPod


I think the comparisions come from Sony themselves... They said something about PSP being the "walkman of this generation" or something like that... And I recall them saying they were going to use the PSP to try and take on iPod, that was another reason why they priced it so low, not just Nintendo...
naz
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Originally Posted by M3wThr33:
Oh, and my stance on the mini is that it's for ignorant women and people who don't care about wasting money. $50 gets you 5 times the space for rougly the same size device. (YES, they are DAMN close. If you don't believe me, go to Target and look at the pamphlets!)


but... is it (#^-^#) CUTE? >_<
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Originally Posted by naz:
but... is it (#^-^#) CUTE? >_<

It is uber-kawaii, but you'd be crazy not to get a cover for your iPod anyway. I have a hardcase and a iPodonut. You can style-up your iPod with accessories later.

http://www.ipodonut.com/english/4g-shopping.php <--iPodonuts
See! You can make it all cute AFTER getting it and not just in a set of 7 colors.

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ipods have games too.

ipod > psp
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PSP is not gonna replace ipod that's for sure. But it's multifunction is great when there are time you just don't feel like stuffing your pants/bag with 3 or 4 gadgets.
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Originally Posted by jiggle:
PSP is not gonna replace ipod that's for sure. But it's multifunction is great when there are time you just don't feel like stuffing your pants/bag with 3 or 4 gadgets.

I'm a sad, sad man
Carrying around an iPod on my belt clip, a digital camera watch, a camera cellphone, and a palm Zire 71. :( And now sometimes I include a DS.
xsarien
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#13

If Sony's going to take on the iPod, they're most certainly not going to use the PSP to do it. They need a dedicated player, one that can hold more than an iPod, go longer than an iPod, and have *true* mp3 compatibility.

It also needs to be easy enough for your theoretical grandmother, and cheaper too.
WULFER
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#14

Sony's PSP = money stupidly spent because ipod and Nintendo's DS will be in full stride. If their not careful the PS3 will be the next to fall....
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HAHAHAHAHA... PSP replace the iPod. Funny.
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If you are buying a music device you buy an iPod or something comparible.

If you are buying a handheld gaming device you buy a PSP, DS or GBA.

What about that is hard to comprehend?
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Originally Posted by WULFER:
Sony's PSP = money stupidly spent because ipod and Nintendo's DS will be in full stride. If their not careful the PS3 will be the next to fall....


hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


hahahahahahahahahahah



Ohhohohhahahahaha

*my gut oh jesus christ*

hahahah
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Originally Posted by jiggle:
PSP is not gonna replace ipod that's for sure. But it's multifunction is great when there are time you just don't feel like stuffing your pants/bag with 3 or 4 gadgets.


Wow someone with a tad of sense.
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Originally Posted by WULFER:
Sony's PSP = money stupidly spent because ipod and Nintendo's DS will be in full stride. If their not careful the PS3 will be the next to fall....


Quote of the Year Award
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Originally Posted by xsarien:
If Sony's going to take on the iPod, they're most certainly not going to use the PSP to do it. They need a dedicated player, one that can hold more than an iPod, go longer than an iPod, and have *true* mp3 compatibility.

 



I agree. I really don't see the PSP, iPod comparison. Some phones can play mp3s, does that make them in competition with the iPod as well?

If Sony wants to compete with the iPod, then that competition will have to come from the Walkman side of the building, not the Playstation division. Actually, if someone came out with a cheaper version of the iPod that played .wma files as well, I would jump on board.
xsarien
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#21

Originally Posted by Amir0x:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


hahahahahahahahahahah



Ohhohohhahahahaha

*my gut oh jesus christ*

hahahah


DEEP BREATHS, MAN! DEEP BREATHS!
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firex
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I don't think the music playing capabilities are going to be that big of a deal with PSP. Movies and games are obviously the big draw.

I could be wrong on that, but in terms of rationalizing the purchase, I would imagine most people are much more interested in PSP for all the visual playback than music. Really, who here used their Playstations as CD players?
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I have preordered the PSP for the Japanese launch. With that said, I can't see how a claim for this device to be a competitor to any audio media player. The storage space is too small. I will also never use this for movies as well. I have an Archos av480. It is 80GB and I can encode to Divx plus have my WMAs on there. I won't be limited by the UMD format and I don't want to put more stress on that laser than I need to.
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I think PSP and iPod might be in competition on some theoretical level (after all, they are both courting dollars from consumers who are looking for portable entertainment), but I think Sony just shot itself in the foot among 50 or so Internet fanboys worldwide by calling the PSP the next Walkman. Otherwise, I don't think that dumb statement from Sony will negatively influence its future in the portable gaming market.
WULFER
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#26

Laugh all you want Sony's game side is focusing on 3 platforms. Nintendo on 2 and MS on two (or one). Sony just bought MGM studios no small price there and their still having to shell out cash for PS3 development. Sony's done the right thing most of the time but, in this industry things don't always fall your way all the time. Also, their banking their future on these UMD disks and Blue-Ray and I did even speak of those costs. So lets not laugh until the players actually
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Originally Posted by Elios83:
What's the relationship between an hard disk based MP3 player and a handheld console like the PSP?
PSP is a gaming console that allows to do other things but a person interested only in portable music won't certainly prefer the PSP over the Ipod.
It's Sony's portable music division that has to fight with Ipod creating new appealing products not SCE.

So true! iPod has nothing to do with the PSP.
The PSP is a gaming-handheld with extra features!
iPod? WTF?!
Axsider
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Originally Posted by WULFER:
Sony's PSP = money stupidly spent because ipod and Nintendo's DS will be in full stride. If their not careful the PS3 will be the next to fall....

What an idiot....

 

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=24851
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Atari sold Civilization franchise #1

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Bonnell also said that Infogrames recently sold the franchise for the game "Civilization," making a capital gain of 15.5 million euros, which should help second-half accounts.


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HomeLAN contacted Atari corporate PR represenative Nancy Bushkin over the phone this morning who confirmed that the Atari will no longer be publishing any more Civilization games, although it still retains the rights to sell its previous Civ games through October 2005. Bushkin would not reveal who Infogrames/Atari sold the Civ franchise to HomeLAN saying, "That's up to that party to disclose that."

ugh. it better not be some shit publisher like EA :/

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GaimeGuy
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uh oh.
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uh oh

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keeblerdrow
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At least we know it wasn't Acclaim.
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