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Barubary
Reverse Engineer

Registered: Jun 2001
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Stealth Codes DO NOT Work

Don't use them. We thought that Sonic Team wouldn't be smart enough to reverse engineer. We're very wrong there.

We're working on something that is theoretically secure as opposed to only security through obscurity.

It will actually be a return to the old code format, believe it or not. We will update the code every time Sonic Team changes something. But this time, if Sonic Team has changed the "correct" checksum, or something else, you will be disconnected by the code, preventing you from being banned. We will make sure this time that banning from the direct use of codes is not possible.

We encrypted the Stealth Code as best we could. But it didn't matter. Sonic Team still broke it. Now we have a method that doesn't rely upon secrecy. In fact, we might release the code unencrypted for Sonic Team to see in plain view, since it no longer would matter.

I'm sure some of you will think that Sonic Team will ban people who disconnect during a checksum. Well, they can do that, but not at the cost of innocent users. To cause an innocent version of the same condition, all you have to do is disconnect while the lobby screen appears, but dimmed (right after warp effect ends). The window for this to happen is several seconds. Plenty of time for innocent users with bad ISPs to disconnect.

Since I'm rather pissed off, I might add to the code to make it so that the logon server never sees your items, and as such can never ban you for banned items. I hope that only legitimate users get banned, so that Sonic Team rethinks their policy. I hope that legits and cheaters can coexist.

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Barubary
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Oh yeah, and read this: http://www.cmgsccc.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11539

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H-Town Boy
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Registered: Jul 2001
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10 minutes too late...

Too bad 4 my buddy. He just called me and said he was banned.


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Naviscore
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Just my two sense.

We all knew this day would come, so anyone that did get banned should not be surprise. Why would you hope they ban legitimate users? Sonic Team did not make their servers to satisfy everyone. We should try and obey by their rules. Getting the legitimate users invold is uncall for. Sonic Team WILL not allow the use of these cheating devices online and they will no everything they can to prevent this. The stakes are getting even higher not just for cheaters, but legits as well. Isn't it time to say enough is enough? Also it is possible for cheaters and legits to coexist. It helps if the cheater does not use codes online.


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pErFeCt 34
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I argee with Naviscore I really think its time to give up useing codes online.

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candyman
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Registered: Aug 2001
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i dont care about codes online, never have.wotever i need i do offline


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Registered: Jun 2001
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i doubt people will use your codes again.if they do then get banned again....that will be the very end for pso ver 2.


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Steve Hale
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Naviscore, he didn't hope that legits would get banned by all of this. He said that he doubted ST would ban people who disconnect at checksums because they then run the risk of banning legit players. Pay attention when you read it ... before you bitch about it ^_^.

Have A Nice One.


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god'sYEAR'sOVER
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Posts: 217

hmm...

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Originally posted by CMX(in that other post):
This would truly piss sega off because we would be blocking all writes they can do to YOUR dreamcast.


Is that all you're trying to do... piss SEGA off? I don't care what they do to MY Dreamcast... If it will keep people from cheating online, I think it's well worth it.


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Cloak
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Registered: Aug 2001
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Question Oki Doki, huge question coming up......

Why not just quit with the codes? It seems everytime something new gets out, it simply gets patched no matter how fullproof it seems. Yes, I used to use 2 codes before I was banned, but once you get banned, you notice silly god equiping armors etc not meant for you wasn't worth your online ability being terminated.

I would just like to know your true meaning. As in, what would you like PSO to be? Just to have code usage online? Or what? I'm not quite clear on it. Unless you just enjoy making codes. But other than that, I don't really see the point anymore. Tons of people have been banned or have quit.

And no I'm not angry or anything, just a little confused towards your motive.

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Ooops..

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Why oh why must we use the brackets instead of the < >

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00Kevin
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Registered: Jun 2001
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You can use the "edit" button. I'm not really sure what Baru's motives are right now.


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goodcow
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"We thought that Sonic Team wouldn't be smart enough to reverse engineer. We're very wrong there."

Big surprise that a bunch of actual engineers and programmers who get paid for a living could outsmart some 19-year old with a lot of free time whose only goal in life is to annoy people.

Give it up. You just keep making yourself look like an ass. "Sonic Team can never patch this unpatchable code. Sonic Team isn't smart enough." Right. The real person who isn't smart enough is you. Give it up.

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