posted 12-02-2000 10:18 PM               

I don't believe it, but Azel is now fully human, but she kinda looks like an elf. Human for what ever Edge's people are, is what I meant.

I want this game to happen so bad, it hurts. I will weep tears of joy, when SEGA announces the sequel. That's a great looking poster.

Whether it is a fake or not, that is one quality piece of artwork.

posted 12-03-2000 02:34 AM            

Visual Memory with Coupon
Cyber Coupon
Saga II Bonus! http://www.sega.co.jp/saga/
Commencement At Joypolis

Then it says
Water Azel II Phosphorous
I can't translate the bottom because it appears to be random characters.

Sorry to say this, but it is a scam. My Japanese may be a little rusty but that ad makes no sense at all!

posted 12-03-2000 03:02 AM               

Maybe this means you can get a special edition VMS with the coupon you can optain at the link (even though it's currently dead) if you come to Joypolis?

"Water Azel Phosphorous"
II

Couldn't phosphorous mean something along the lines of fire/light? That would place Azel between two elements. Given her role in Saga, it wouldn't be completely off.

Don't the random characters mean anthing at all?
Maybe this is the game wander has been working on? He said we would be happy when it is announced, so it must be a sequel to a popular game. On closer inspection it's doubtful that this is the game he works on as this was his response on a different Azel II thread:
"You know whats funny Whipping boy? A bunch of former Panzer Dragoon team members
made Space Channel 5. (among others)

Kensai I think its a lost cause. The original team members have split up all over the
place, many still within Sega Group but at different divisions. Unless just a handful of
them were to get the go ahead to make a new team, but it wouldn't be the same"

posted 12-03-2000 03:19 AM            

http://www.tendoproject.com/oct00/481.shtml

Come on Sega, how about at least a conversion of the PC version of Panzer Dragoon? After seeing the dragon in Shenmue as a little toy, made me want to see a DC version of this game!

posted 12-03-2000 03:28 AM               

"Photo album of Yoshitoshi (or Yoshitaka)Abe".

Very misterious . Anybody knows this guy?

posted 12-03-2000 03:43 AM            

There is a Yoshitoshi Abe that worked on Playstation game called Lain (which is based on an anime of the same name). Here's what else I dug up.

He has worked on the Furu-Machi ("Old Town") CD-ROM/Artbook, the Lain Playstation designs, the "WachenRoder" SEGA Saturn game, and other commercical and non-commercial works.

I wonder if that's where the artwork came from... Hmmm... now I'm not so sure anymore

posted 12-03-2000 06:25 AM               

It is real funny, but when I first looked at that picture, i was trying to figure out where i had seen that pic before. Then after the refernces to Abe-san and Lain were made, I realized where I had seen this pic before. There is a similer pic (but not quite the same one) that I had seen in a copy of either Gamefan or Gamers Republic (I can't remember which one as they both review anime) quite a while back.

Now this just may be able to be attributed to similer art styles considering that its by the same artist. It does not automatically mean that the pic is a hoax, but things do begin to look a wee bit . . . darnit!!!! Just take it with a grain of salt. I really hate when people play with my emotions this way. Its just not right!!!!!

<pathetic img of Core 238 weeping like a child>

</pathetic img>

Considering that Team Andromeda is broken up, I sometimes have mixed feelings about a sequel for Panzer Saga. While part of me wants it more than any other game that anyone could ever possibly announce anytime in the next 20 years, part of me is affraid that a new team may not realize fully the vision that was Panzer Saga. I mean, the battle system alone, made this game better than the entire Final Fantasy Series, Phantasy Star Series, Dragon Warrior Series Ultima Series and Shining Series all combined. In all honesty, to quote Next Generation (from back in the days when they were actually a good rag), "Panzer Dragoom Saga is what RPGs will be like in the future." Its just that far advanced to anything that has ever been out and that is currently out there now, and that even includes Skies of Arcadia. SoA is a great game, and I love it to death, but even in all its greatness, it still does not hold a candle to Panzer Saga. And friends when I say that, I do not exagerate. So you can see, why I'd be a bit anxious with the idea of another team that was not Andromeda creating the sequel (if there is to be a sequel). There is a lot to live up to (almost too much). But at the same time, I feel for SEGA to finally regain the respect they deserve as the best creators of RPGs on the planet, then a sequel to Panzer Saga is a must. The original came out on a failed system . . . hard to garner respect for your programming prowess if the system that you are programming on, is already dead (and how many idiots kept telling me that Triple play Baseball was the best baseball series on the planet . . . dumb idiots never once got their hands around a copy of WSB1, 2, or '98 for the Saturn, had they, then, well you see my point).

but now that DC is here and it is a runaway success, a game like Panzer Saga 2 on this system would sell like crazy and SEGA's rep is the best creator of RPGs on the planet, will once again be restored . . . only if the Panzer Saga sequel is handled correctly.

<crossing fingers>

Hardcore 238

posted 12-03-2000 06:46 AM               

Friend of mine just informed me that he has this picture in his hentai gallery on his
computer, and he's had it for a year.

No, just realized the picture IS a fake. studied it a bit and noted the none too
professional job they did on the editing (note around the green circle the picture's
distortion, like an amateur editing, dumbass coulda at LEAST used a layering from Adobie
Photoshop instead of editing it in). This, by far is THE most atrocious fraud committed
against Sega, the legacy of the Saga, and the worshippers of the Church of Atolm (in
which I am arch Bishop BTW). The doctrine has been decreed that the infedel who
committed such an unholy crime MUST be brought to light so that he may face justice
within the purging light of Ne Rei.

In other words, the [censored] must SUFFER!!!!!!!"

posted 12-03-2000 10:03 AM               

A church centered around an evil dragon. Yikes!

"Why would they change Azels look so much."

Well that is easy to understand, if you understand how climatic the ending of PDS was. Since the towers no longer exists, and she somehow survived, that I think she was transformed into a human. She is an origanic creation, so it quite possible, that her DNA or whatever could have been adjusted. It really quite surprising she survived at all, considering the tower's destruction, and she was in the center of it, when Edge/Divine Visitor went to battle Sestrel.

Anyway it could be a piece of artwork that does not represent too clearly how she looks in the game in 3D. This has been done before, and I even saw it in Cannon Spike last night, at the arcade, where 2D art represents the characters in the presentation screens, but in game there are 3D models that do not look anything like the presentation art.

Well it probably is a fake after what 3of19 has dug up. SEGA has to realize that this game is so huge in the west, and since the west is now carrying the DC success, SEGA should strongly consider making this game.

posted 12-03-2000 06:43 PM               

I also feel Azel is the single finest RPG experience to be had anywhere on the planet!!

posted 12-03-2000 06:44 PM               

Hey wander, please be sure that when your game is announced, you tell us that it's the game you were talking about. Please?

And please let it be an RPG! Oh please!

posted 12-03-2000 08:29 PM               

Wander, I know it's been mentioned before, but again, if ever the former Andromeda folks look down or discouraged, please pass on to them how much we all love and appreciate their work, and look forward to whatever they have in store for us next.

Perhaps if attention does ever shift from the domestic market, the powers that be will realize the potential that exists over here for a sequel (Grandia II is coming, after all), but until then, we'll just have to wait and rumor-monger.

posted 12-03-2000 10:05 PM               

Reading all of your replies about the possiblity, and your remembrances of the original PDS make me steam with jealousy. I have never played the original, and I have wanted to so badly. I even bought a new Saturn because my old one bit the dust just so I would have one to play PDS if I ever came across a copy I could afford. Now that is pathetic.

posted 12-03-2000 11:29 PM               

quote:

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Originally posted by duderanger:

If anyone wants to let me "borrow" their copy for, say, 2 months, I'll sign over my first born as collateral.

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