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Assault by Circuit City Store Director.... UPDATED 12/22 - going on the radio
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Posts: 850  Registered: Dec 2000
wasssup

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 6:08 PM

retail managers are way too power hungry...its sad that only the truly fvcked up retail employees (at least from what i've seen) go up the corporate ladder...i'm surprised the chain doesn't see the manager in question as a liability and let him go, but i guess if they did that they'd be admitting their guilt.

man i hate retail employees...whenever you get a good deal on anything, they get pissed off and act as if we're stealing from THEIR pockets...


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Posts: 1261  Registered: Mar 2003
undefined

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 7:26 PM

wasssup said:


man i hate retail employees...whenever you get a good deal on anything, they get pissed off and act as if we're stealing from THEIR pockets...



I think that is a stretch. Not all retail employees act that way.


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Posts: 400  Registered: Apr 2003
HyperKiwiZero

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 9:54 PM

wasssup said:


man i hate retail employees...whenever you get a good deal on anything, they get pissed off and act as if we're stealing from THEIR pockets...

most of the time, no, we don't care if you get a deal. however, if some guy's coming in here trying to pm an after rebate price of some off brand tiger direct ram with some of the stuff we carry, i'm gonna say something.

also, a lot of our stuff (pricematches most of all) gets checked by the store director. We're also trying to keep OUR jobs and we've dealt with a jillion other customers who are asking for the same deal. Bear with us while we're a little cranky... just a tad.

Of course, I'm never cranky to customers


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Posts: 24  Registered: Dec 2004
uneasyrider

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 10:29 PM

TYTBUDGET said: this was a rare moment in retail commerce where you had an opportunity to impact a lot of people (like me) and champion our consumer rights.

And psuJC is additionally correct in that you never have a conversation with the Defendant following the altercation ・written, phone, personal, or otherwise.

I'm just curious Undefined (and I'm not trying to be patronizing I assure you) ・how old are you? I only ask because there is a certain degree of na・et・/i> that is both touching and sweet about you. Your character is truly that of a generous soul.

But ・you get old (like me LOL, well, 48) and you begin to understand that mendacity drives most of Corporate America. To presume (or even hope) that CC shares your values is/was a tragic example of misplaced trust, and in some ways that's what's more tragic about this story than anything.

I doubt you'll ever trust another retailer again. And for that alone I'd like to see CC pay. Big time.




HOW TRUE I also came to the conclusion Undefined was young. I applaud how he handled the situation in the store and his kind and generous ways (as perceived thru this thread) but - you get old and you realise that you can't be kind and generous to corporate giants, they will squash you. That manager should have been put on administrative leave until a investigation was made. They should also have kept Undefined updated as to what actions they were taking. Undefined gave them plenty of time to respond. He said they sounded honestly concerned about the situation.
I thought to myself, they have training on how to act (and it is an act) to these situations and they probably laughed it off and said "yeah right" when they hung up.
Telling them he didn't want a cash settlement probably gave them the "why bother with this , it won't cost us anything anyway, he already said he doesn't want to sue and he's waited too long to take action" attitude. As I said in an earlier post, they only understand "how much money is this going to cost us". But, even though you seek no monetary gain, it's not too late Undefined. As you stated, you have now filed and are going to the media.
Now they well say "hmmm, this could bring bad publicity, how much money will this cost us in lost sales and public relations clean up?" Only after calculating their loss will they take you seriously. Best of luck to you Undefined, stay kind, composed, and generous, but cautious.
For all you guys saying "you should have..." it's getting redundant, what's done is done , lets just see how it plays out from here.


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Posts: 24  Registered: Dec 2004
uneasyrider

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 10:38 PM

HyperKiwiZero said:

also, a lot of our stuff (pricematches most of all) gets checked by the store director. We're also trying to keep OUR jobs and we've dealt with a jillion other customers who are asking for the same deal. Bear with us while we're a little cranky... just a tad.

Of course, I'm never cranky to customers



Here's a thought, if you've been dealing with a jillion customers asking for the same deal, how about correcting the mistake instead of getting "cranky" and taking it out on the people who keep you employed? as far as pricematching, if other retailers can profit by offering good deals, so can you.


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Posts: 1261  Registered: Mar 2003
undefined

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 10:41 PM

uneasyrider said:


I also came to the conclusion Undefined was young. I applaud how he handled the situation in the store and his kind and generous ways (as perceived thru this thread) but - you get old and you realise that you can't be kind and generous to corporate giants, they will squash you. That manager should have been put on administrative leave until a investigation was made. They should also have kept Undefined updated as to what actions they were taking. Undefined gave them plenty of time to respond. He said they sounded honestly concerned about the situation.
I thought to myself, they have training on how to act (and it is an act) to these situations and they probably laughed it off and said "yeah right" when they hung up.
Telling them he didn't want a cash settlement probably gave them the "why bother with this , it won't cost us anything anyway, he already said he doesn't want to sue and he's waited too long to take action" attitude. As I said in an earlier post, they only understand "how much money is this going to cost us". But, even though you seek no monetary gain, it's not too late Undefined. As you stated, you have now filed and are going to the media.
Now they well say "hmmm, this could bring bad publicity, how much money will this cost us in lost sales and public relations clean up?" Only after calculating their loss will they take you seriously. Best of luck to you Undefined, stay kind, composed, and generous, but cautious.
For all you guys saying "you should have..." it's getting redundant, what's done is done , lets just see how it plays out from here.



Since the situation, to me, revolves around public relations it seems appropriate to keep it in the public and not tied up in a lawsuit. If anyone does pick up the story, it is the week of Christmas - not the time to have a public relations issue on your hands. A lawsuit would have taken months or years, and the most probably side effect is that no one else would have ever known about this.


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Posts: 116  Registered: Jun 2004
kara3489

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2004 11:28 PM

OMG- atty's should be BITING at the bit to get YOUR case!!! lol. Who cares HOW you found the price- it is THAT you got the price AND they wanted to do THAT- WOW!!! lol. What a bargain they are going to be buying you things for YEARS to come!!! lol.


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Posts: 18  Registered: May 2004
Gadget111

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 4:39 AM

undefined said:

uneasyrider said:



Since the situation, to me, revolves around public relations it seems appropriate to keep it in the public and not tied up in a lawsuit. If anyone does pick up the story, it is the week of Christmas - not the time to have a public relations issue on your hands. A lawsuit would have taken months or years, and the most probably side effect is that no one else would have ever known about this.




If no media outlet is willing to pick up this story, or they don't have the time, then maybe Undefined will share some of the CC telephone numbers with his fellow FW friends.

Then we have our own media story on FW and we can support Undefined by telling CC corporate (CEO's office) how this is already in the "media" (FW style!) and that we will be taking our business elseware (except of course for those loss leader deals that don't help CC out).

So Undefined, when/if you don't get any resolution from CC corporate, you can have your minions on FW make a few phone calls and sound off!

So who else is with me on this?????


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Posts: 400  Registered: Apr 2003
HyperKiwiZero

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 4:43 AM

uneasyrider said:

HyperKiwiZero said:

also, a lot of our stuff (pricematches most of all) gets checked by the store director. We're also trying to keep OUR jobs and we've dealt with a jillion other customers who are asking for the same deal. Bear with us while we're a little cranky... just a tad.

Of course, I'm never cranky to customers



Here's a thought, if you've been dealing with a jillion customers asking for the same deal, how about correcting the mistake instead of getting "cranky" and taking it out on the people who keep you employed? as far as pricematching, if other retailers can profit by offering good deals, so can you.

i understand, i'm not cranky ever, some ppl are though :\\
if other stores do it that doesnt mean we do it. it's not up to us employees.. it's the higher powers that decide. we just do the slave labor.


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Posts: 1276  Registered: Nov 2002
poison7FL

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 5:34 AM

undefined said:



Since the situation, to me, revolves around public relations it seems appropriate to keep it in the public and not tied up in a lawsuit. If anyone does pick up the story, it is the week of Christmas - not the time to have a public relations issue on your hands. A lawsuit would have taken months or years, and the most probably side effect is that no one else would have ever known about this.



Uh.... Battery is a crime.


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Posts: 609  Registered: Sep 2002
agentjfong

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 7:10 AM

Gadget111 said:


So Undefined, when/if you don't get any resolution from CC corporate, you can have your minions on FW make a few phone calls and sound off!

So who else is with me on this?????



Sounds like an awesome idea.... A retailer has yet to see the wrath of the Fatwallet effect! Time to exercise some muscle!


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Posts: 3849  Registered: Nov 2003
Tazznum1

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 7:48 AM

What if they say they changed their policy nationwide because of you?









.............what will happen when this happens to someone else? Nothing. CC policy is not posted on the door, so who really knows if this is already covered.



Again, nothing is going to happen. Get your little giftcard and go. You are just spinning your wheels for no reason now.

And stop with the lawyers and suing bit. That is definately not going to happen.


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Posts: 72  Registered: Feb 2002
misslovanu

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 8:26 AM

bluelighter said:

I really admire your character in that you didnt lose your cool in the midst of all that. Also for the fact that you're giving CC a chance for an explanation.

I'm sure you already know this, and you're probably sick of people telling what to do, but if I have to give my two cents, I think that by the time CC gets back to you, they will have taken some major actions regarding this issue. They might tell you that major disciplinary action has been taken for those involved and may offer you a settlement. OF course they're doing this to prevent you from filing a lawsuit (again I'm sure you are all aware of this). My opinion is that you should take this to court anyways. Once you have filed the proper procedures, it will be a good idea to let any and all major media outlets know. I feel bad that CC has to be the poster child for this, but this was a incident waiting to happen (we all knew some sort of thing like this was going to happen, although i was surprised that it was at CC, not BestBuy. I WISH it would've happened at BB. Heck I would even donate money to help fund the suit). I think at this point it is Crucial to let retailers (esp. Best Buy) know that this kind of action/mentality is intolerable.

what I really wish to come out of this incident is major policy change at various retailers regarding their costumers and price mistakes or loss leader sales. Merchants are to blame for costumers using the system to their advantage. They need to stop pointing the fingers at the "devils" and start making changes to their systems and policies.




I definitely agree with you on the issue, and I highly applaud Undefined's way of handling the issue. The humiliation of being treated like you were a blatant shoplifter is what kills me! You actually paid for the items, not just walked out the store without pulling out the 'ole credit card. I come from a service and sales occupation, and find myself critical in how I'm treated while out shopping. I hope CC takes note of this incident, and are aware of the big wave caused by all this, and change their policies, and issue refresher training to some of these vigilante managers who think they own the store; better yet the company. You would think Undefined stole something directly from the manager's wallet!

 Message edited by: misslovanu on 2004-12-18 08:28:06


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Posts: 4220  Registered: Nov 2002
Crazytree

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 10:48 AM

you should have beat them up on camera. now THAT would have made the news GUARANTEED. I'm not saying this to be mean but joe public could care less if you got your video games. however... if they had video of you engaged in mortal kombat with the store director... that would totally make the news. if it bleeds it leads.


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Posts: 3849  Registered: Nov 2003
Tazznum1

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 12:43 PM

Crazytree said:

you should have beat them up on camera. now THAT would have made the news GUARANTEED. I'm not saying this to be mean but joe public could care less if you got your video games. however... if they had video of you engaged in mortal kombat with the store director... that would totally make the news. if it bleeds it leads.



And you are in law school?

LMFAO. Riiiight.


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Posts: 4220  Registered: Nov 2002
Crazytree

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2004 12:55 PM

grabbing something voilently out of someone's hand is a battery. we read that case in law school. you know the one where the black man had the plate snatched out of his hand in the buffet line in the south? oh wait that's right you never read that one.

or the ones that say you're allowed to use reasonable force to get back your property or defend your property? oh wait you never read those either.


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