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Please. Everyone stop talking about the media. They have better things to cover this time of the year. Like homeless kids, starving families, people burned out of their home for the holidays, not a guy that had his bag ripped out of his hand that did nothing about it afterwards.

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Ok, so let me get this straight. Everyone is saying sue because someone put their hand on someone and ripped a bag from their hand.

I agree with whoever said it first, the day the lady sued Mc'D's was the day this country started on a down hill slide. Everyone is sue happy. Sad

Someone commented that the guy was probably new since he didn't know to ring it up at the front.

So, who's to say the guy didn't just get the job after having managed a small store somewhere making no money, while attending night school for the last 2 years. Now he's finally got a job where he can pull himself out of debt and finally be able to give his kids cool items like. . . PS2 games.

Instead, one day a guy comes in and knowingly takes advantage of a price mistake

Date Posted: Dec/13/2004 12:53 PM
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Dead in Westminster, CO. They know to fix the price

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and being worried that since corporate sent out an email explaining the price mistake, (that he might of just got before the incident happened) he would lose his job and have to explain to his wife and kids why they're christmas is now going to suck because dad got fired for letting a guy leave the store.

Sure the guy over reacted and yes the story it's a little far fetched but anyone that's ever been in debt to the point that they know if they lose their current job they're screwed because they won't find another one that pays the same, in turn causing them to know they'll lose their car/house/wife/kids, etc, understands how emotions could run high.

The fact is I don't know why he did what he did. It's not right, but come one people, is it really worth a lawsuit? I'd think not.

Oh, and for the people that would question what I would've done in that situation. Easy, I'll give you perfect example of an incident that DID happen a couple years back.

I was getting ready for a trip to the sand dunes in Waynoka, OK. The day before I was due to leave my battery died for my camcorder. I called around and the closest store that had it was a BB. CSR told me straight out, "Oh yeah, we've got that on the rack."

So, I drove the 30 miles and spent 15 minutes looking up and down the isle for it. After I didn't find it I called a CSR over and asked about it. After another 15 minutes he tracked me down and told me "We don't. . . Uh. . . stock that battery." I explained that "I just called up here an hour ago and was told that it was in stock." "Um, yeah that was me that you talked to, I figured we carried them all." Needless to say, at that point, my blood pressure started to rise, along with my voice. Never cursed or anything like that, but I let him know I wasn't happy about him waisting my time because of his lazyness.

One of the other CSR must have heard me and called the manager, as he showed up not to long after. I explained what happened and got the typical "I'm sorry about that. . . we usually carry that." I told him "The (CSR) just told me you guys don't ever carry that battery, and I don't like the textbook rebuttals from either of you." He said "Sir, I'm sorry we didn't have what you wanted but I'm going to ask you to leave" Being hot headed like I am, I continued to explain their ". . . anything to get the customer into the store" crap wasn't right.

At that point he reached up, put his hand on my shoulder, grabbed my shirt in a fist like manor, turned me towards the door and said "You're going to have to leave the store, now, before I call security." (Since when has BB had security???)

Without blinking an eye, I turned back around, stepped towards him, and in a very calm yet, I'm not playing tone said, "Partner, if you don't take your hand off me, one of us is going to jail. . . the other to the hospital!" Needless to say, with a surprised look on his face, he immediately jerked his hand back to his chest.

After that I walked to the exit, with him and another one of his minions following a few feet behind me.

I never did anything about it. Wasn't worth it.

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Please. Everyone stop talking about the media. They have better things to cover this time of the year. Like homeless kids, starving families, people burned out of their home for the holidays, not a guy that had his bag ripped out of his hand that did nothing about it afterwards.

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Well said. Let's not forget the recent election, what is happening in the Ukraine, the falling dollar, and the genocide in the Sudan. (I'm being serious here)

Without a doubt there are more important things going on in the world.

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Please. Everyone stop talking about the media. They have better things to cover this time of the year. Like homeless kids, starving families, people burned out of their home for the holidays, not a guy that had his bag ripped out of his hand that did nothing about it afterwards.

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Tazznum1 said:

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Please. Everyone stop talking about the media. They have better things to cover this time of the year. Like homeless kids, starving families, people burned out of their home for the holidays, not a guy that had his bag ripped out of his hand that did nothing about it afterwards.

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Well said. Let's not forget the recent election, what is happening in the Ukraine, the falling dollar, and the genocide in the Sudan. (I'm being serious here)

Without a doubt there are more important things going on in the world.

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YMMV now has a new meaning: Your Manhandling May Vary.

My take on this: So the manager crossed the line. You were not hurt or injured. Laugh it off and move on to the next deal. One reason I like FW is that some of the best deals go outside the bounds of the ordinary. Its part of the game. And so is dealing with jerky-jerk jerk managers. Sure, go ahead and complain to CC HQs -- that's part of the game when it gets to that level. But when it comes to lawsuits and contributing to our screwed up legal system and the overly litigious nature of our society, then that is going way too far. Too many lawsuits are ruining our country -- doctors needing to practice defensive medicine and thus skyrocketing medical costs; obstetricians doing mostly c-sections or not delivering at all; higher and higher insurance rates; and companies (like CC) losing money from legal fees/judgements and eventually going out of business.

Mabye FW should have a legal thread category, so all the lawyers and lawyer wannabees coming out of the woodwork can discuss suing decent companies like CC to their hearts content, and leave us other FWers to making deals and playing the game like it should be played. YMMV.

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YMMV now has a new meaning: Your Manhandling May Vary.

My take on this: So the manager crossed the line. You were not hurt or injured. Laugh it off and move on to the next deal. One reason I like FW is that some of the best deals go outside the bounds of the ordinary. Its part of the game. And so is dealing with jerky-jerk jerk managers. Sure, go ahead and complain to CC HQs -- that's part of the game when it gets to that level. But when it comes to lawsuits and contributing to our screwed up legal system and the overly litigious nature of our society, then that is going way too far. Too many lawsuits are ruining our country -- doctors needing to practice defensive medicine and thus skyrocketing medical costs; obstetricians doing mostly c-sections or not delivering at all; higher and higher insurance rates; and companies (like CC) losing money from legal fees/judgements and eventually going out of business.

Mabye FW should have a legal thread category, so all the lawyers and lawyer wannabees coming out of the woodwork can discuss suing decent companies like CC to their hearts content, and leave us other FWers to making deals and playing the game like it should be played. YMMV.

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This whole episode was beyone the scope of fatwallet. This had nothing to do with the deal, the sale had been completed. This incident transcended all reasonable actions that CC could have taken.

I'm not a laywer, but I take offense to the idea that "Too many lawsuits are ruining our country." People like to say that but have absolutly no facts to back that up.

here's a question for you.. Do you personally know anybody who has filed a lawsuit against someone that was unfounded? I'm not asking if you've heard of one, I'm asking if YOU personally know someone. In fact, lets take a poll. I don't know anybody. I've asked a few coworkers, they don't know any either.

My boss just got back from the magistrate today suing a guy paid to do his roof and never showed up for the job. The guy never showed for court either and my boss won. Was that a frivilous lawsuit? No, that's what you do. You can't just go over to the guys house and take his truck, you need to sue him. You cant demand CC fire the manager. You can't demand CC create policies to that the management knows once a sale is complete it's done and you can't undo it. You have to sue them. Unless we want vigilantes running around and blackmail commonplace, the courts are the only way to settle disputes like this and the only place you get a level playing field, relativly speaking.

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so how much did they lose really? $5~10 per title? turned it into a customer service fiasco...haha. and you wonder why all our good jobs are being outsourced.

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here's a question for you. Do you personally know anybody who has filed a lawsuit against someone that was unfounded? I'm not asking if you've heard of one, I'm asking if YOU personally know someone. In fact, lets take a poll. I don't know anybody. I've asked a few coworkers, they don't know any either.

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I have prosecuted thousands of cases in my career, a handful of them "delayed report" cases with warrants obtained by private citizens. My conviction rate on cases that are actually tried to a jury is about 98%. Know how many of those delayed report private warrant cases have resulted in a conviction after trial? Zero. None. Nada.

My colleagues have had the same experience. It is also unethical for a prosecutor to indict a case for the purpose of seeking an advantage for a litigant in a civil matter. If I find out that an incident is not reported to the police at the time of the event and that a civil case is pending/imminent, I generally decline to prosecute.

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Wow this thread soon has quickly become an assault on what the OP should have done (according to varying opinion of other FW'ers). Too many people here want to see a lawsuit because frankly, its not their fight and they just like to see blood. Its easy to pass judgement on someone while sitting in front of a monitor and thinking idealized situations and how you would have done it differently (and with better results ofcourse ). In real life its not so easy, considering the actions required on the OP's path. Maybe he thinks the situation doesn't require such drastic action. Whatever his reason let him make his own decisions.

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