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JcDc

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posted 10-25-2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JcDc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't wait until the hype can finally diminish. That will happen with the PS2 launch. The people who say it blows the DC away graphically (I'm not even talking about the people in this forum, just general mainstreamers) will finally be able to compare the systems. I am very confident that once people look at the better DC games, and compare them to the better PS2 games... The DC will impress more. We will probably hear "OMG! This doesn't look better than the DC and it costs twice as much!! Crap!"

Obviously the hype can not be used nearly as much now that it's here. We can compare and see the real truth of the matter. The PS2 does not blow the DC away and infact looks inferior in some ways. Woo hoo!! Bring on the PS2 I can't wait until a friend gets a PS2 and I can bring over my DC. He'll get out Tekken, I will get out Soul Calibur He might have RR5, then I can show F355. He'll show Madden 2001, I will show NFL 2K1 and hook it up for online play. He'll show NBA Live 2001 and I will show NBA 2K1 and well.. hook it up for online play He can bring out Unreal Tournament, and I can bring out Q3A with well... online play. Then the realization can come that the DC not only holds up well to the PS2 but is actually better in some ways!


But don't get all whiny on me now Sony fans, I'm well aware that the PS2 will hold the mainstream market and sell a lot of systems. The thing is, that now when we get people saying that crap about the PS2 being so much better looking, blah blah. We can actually compare stuff on each system, heh. And then yep.. The DC can speak for itself and they can just stop all the BS claims about the PS2.


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Dino 36

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posted 10-25-2000 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dino 36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dude if you think things are bad now. People are camping out...in TENTS!!!!!!

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JcDc

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posted 10-25-2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JcDc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW I'd like to thank Sony for potentially increasing DC sales by a lot for the holidays

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JcDc

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posted 10-25-2000 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JcDc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more PS2 buyers, the better. All the more people who can finally see that it doesn't blow away the DC (except it's cost)

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opa-opa

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posted 10-25-2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for opa-opa   Click Here to Email opa-opa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep the faith JcDc. We will prevail.

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dreamcaster

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posted 10-25-2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamcaster   Click Here to Email dreamcaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hell i'm happy because my sega stock should finally start to go up again. its been long enough.

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Saint Cornelius
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posted 10-25-2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saint Cornelius   Click Here to Email Saint Cornelius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As much as it pains me to say it, PS2s are going to be flying off the shelves the whole holiday season. the hype machine is in full effect, and consumers everywhere are going nutty (while I play SdA).

However! let's look at the software sales in the coming months. is there going to be a lot of GAMES flying off the shelves as well? or DVDs? not that it really matters to Sony as they've got their hands in both markets.

sega will do just fine, however. don't worry about that. sega.net is a big draw as well as the whole Sega vibe that you can't get anywhere else.

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Dino 36

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posted 10-25-2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dino 36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my goodness this is a weird feeling with all the Sony maniacs gone it just dosen't feel right... it's so creepy!!!!!

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JcDc

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posted 10-25-2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JcDc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know Dino Where is gigadent, Duane, etc.. ??

This could be a fun thread

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Dino 36

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posted 10-25-2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dino 36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick everyone talk behind their backs!!! (joke)

Seriously though. It is weird.

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tomatoes

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posted 10-25-2000 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree cause the SNES hype was holding the Genny down till Sonic showed them wassup graphically.just like the PS2 hype is holding the DC sales down.
with the DC & PS2 it's just not Sonic it's Shen Mue , SC , F355 ETC.Sega should have no problem showing how well the DC competes graphicall now that the PS2 is actually out.

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Edge
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posted 10-25-2000 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This post is just asking for it....but i will contribute..... Well the only reason PS2's are flying off the shelves is not really hype IMO. Its more an economy issue. Again IMO. It is a rare toy. Rare toys sell a lot even though they could be pieces of crap. Look at tickle me elmo. Quantities were small and even though that was a piece of crap it still sold, and sold for a lot i might add. Now im not saying the PS2 is a piece of crap. just that it doesnt live up to expectation.
where is the "revolution"?
!!!!MY LIFE IS FOREVER BETTER BECAUSE OF THE PS2!!!...jeez the things sony claimed the system would be

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Doc Rock

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posted 10-25-2000 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Rock   Click Here to Email Doc Rock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
October 26th is indeed a glorious dat for Sega. This could be looked back upon in three years or so as the year that the Sony house of cards started to tumble.

This could almost be like Dec 7,1941, Sega's pearl harbor job on Sony. This date will live in infamy in videogame history. OCt.26th,2000, the time that Sega began it's comeback as industry leader.

Of course Pokemon could come in and wipe out everything!

This really is a time to rejoice for Sega fans!

When the fiscal-year end statements are read out in Sony headquarters, a chill will descend the Sony boardroom.


End the system wars now!

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father screaming at the top of his lungs)What do you mean this DVD player doesn't include a remote!(flings the PS2 against the wall and it smashes into a million JAGGED pieces)How could you do this to me little Billy! (falls to his knees sobbing) This is worse than the time little Johnny tricked me into getting a 3DO!(continues sobbing)
Why little Billy! Why!

little Billy in tears) Sorry papa, sorry...maybe the Nuon was a better idea after all.

[This message has been edited by Doc Rock (edited 10-26-2000).]

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Vormund
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posted 10-25-2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vormund   Click Here to Email Vormund     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, a lot people wanted to wait for the PS2's launch to get a better idea of which console they should commit too.

Now that both are launched, doesn't mean people will stop buying Dreamcast's, it could mean the opposite

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Catapult Beetle

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posted 10-25-2000 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catapult Beetle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doc Rock:
October 26th is indeed a glorious dat for Sega. This could be looked back upon in three years or so as the year that the Sony house of cards started to crumble.

*ahem* Just to nit-pick, you're mixing metaphors. A house of cards cannot crumble, but it can fold. A *cookie* can crumble.

Mmm... cookies.

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Olbaid Areif

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posted 10-25-2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Olbaid Areif     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
...Sega's pearl harbor job on Sony.

What a poor choice for an analogy, assuming you are a Sega fan.

[This message has been edited by Olbaid Areif (edited 10-25-2000).]

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RAZA

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posted 10-26-2000 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAZA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"This could almost be like Dec 7,1941, Sega's pearl harbor job on Sony."

You better pray there is no Sony's Hiroshima job on Sega then.......

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DaCocoaBrova

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posted 10-26-2000 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaCocoaBrova     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The PS2 is crap! If you've played it, you'd know. I had the import and paid top dollar for it. To my dismay, it didn't offer simple things like VGA support, a modem, or a game not possible on other consoles. I couldn't justify keeping it for the money I paid. I sold it for a hefty chunck of $$$ which is fueling my DC software sales to this very day.


Couldn't be happier!

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Doc Rock

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posted 10-26-2000 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Rock   Click Here to Email Doc Rock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes indeed, it will be very interesting to see how things go now that people can compare the two systems side by side. Will people feel ripped off when they the PS2 graphics are no better, and in some cases worse than DC? Or will people be to busy watching DVD's to notice?

Maybe actually finally getting to see the games could be the PS2's downfall? Won't a lot of people be disappointed when they see the graphics are not even close to "movie-quality"?

Could Sony's house of cards be about to take a TUMBLE?


End the system wars now!

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father:(screaming at the top of his lungs)What do you mean this DVD player doesn't include a remote!(flings the PS2 against the wall and it smashes into a million JAGGED pieces)How could you do this to me little Billy! (falls to his knees sobbing) This is worse than the time little Johnny tricked me into getting a 3DO!(continues sobbing)
Why little Billy! Why!

little Billy:(in tears) Sorry papa, sorry...maybe the Nuon was a better idea after all.

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JcDc

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posted 10-26-2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JcDc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on what standards you had for the PS2. Do I think it totally sucks? NO. Do I think it's worth the money? NO. Why? Because you can get a much better experience with the DC at this point. There are tons more good games on the DC than PS2, and all the good PS2 games that will be out are like 1-2 years away. And maybe by then there will be some online games.

But at this point, I can play NFL 2K1 online.. NBA 2K1 online... Quake 3 Arena online.. And then aside from the awesome online titles we get a totally new experience with Shenmue. Grandia 2 is said to be a very good RPG, soon PSO, Skies of Arcadia. Then we got MSR, Lemans, and Vanishing Point (though I don't like the new overdone reflective look )for the racing fans. So the value of the PS2 just hasn't shown itself yet and probably won't for abou 2 years.

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posted 10-26-2000 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nrXic   Click Here to Email nrXic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doc, your analogys are wacked.

I think you're over-reacting JcDc, BUT it's true that SEGA can capitalize on this situation in SO MANY WAYS.

But will they? That's the question.

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Dragon

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posted 10-26-2000 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon   Click Here to Email Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what's going to be really funny. All those lifeless people standing in lines won't even get a PS2. At least the majority won't. I'd love to see the look on their faces when people who've preordered their PS2 walk right in front of the line to pick theirs up.

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MadCat

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posted 10-26-2000 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread JcDc, I totally agree.

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F o u r F i v e S i x

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posted 10-26-2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F o u r F i v e S i x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomatoes:
Sega should have no problem showing how well the DC competes graphicall now that the PS2 is actually out.


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F o u r F i v e S i x

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posted 10-26-2000 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F o u r F i v e S i x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doc Rock:
October 26th is indeed a glorious dat for Sega. This could be looked back upon in three years or so as the year that the Sony house of cards started to tumble.

This could almost be like Dec 7,1941, Sega's pearl harbor job on Sony. This date will live in infamy in videogame history. OCt.26th,2000, the time that Sega began it's comeback as industry leader.

Of course Pokemon could come in and wipe out everything!

This really is a time to rejoice for Sega fans!

When the fiscal-year end statements are read out in Sony headquarters, a chill will descend the Sony boardroom.


End the system wars now!


Why do you plead for an end to the system wars and then proceed to write inflammatory posts? All you do is troll constantly on this forum and yet you seek an end to the system wars? Oh, and now that people are afforded an opportunity to witness, for themselves, the marked superiority of Sony's uber-console I doubt anyone in Sega is welcoming this launch jubilantly.

[This message has been edited by F o u r F i v e S i x (edited 10-26-2000).]

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Doug Erickson

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posted 10-26-2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doug Erickson   Click Here to Email Doug Erickson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the shortage is HELPING Sony - two co-workers, who don't even CARE about games, are buying PS2's now simply because of the insane hype this last week has incurred. Everyone thinks the PS2 must be something incredibly special because of nutjobs waiting in lines. The PS2 is being discussed EVERYWHERE - in the news, on the radio, in print, and the good ol' braindead consumers of America have one thing indelibly engraved on their flaccid, TV-addled minds: PS2 IS VERY POPULAR. And we all know what that means in the US of A: if it's popular, it must be incredible. They buy it, denial and cognitive dissonance kick in, and you have a mega-hit.

Welcome to a consumer-based culture. Hoo-ray!

The PS2 won't stop being in gross demand for eons, now. The 10% of the potential purchasing audience that has some degree of savviness will probably opt for a DC this season (chances are they already have one, though), but the PS2 is a frickin' runaway train, now. Take that metaphor as you will.

Doug Erickson

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dark1x

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posted 10-26-2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dark1x   Click Here to Email dark1x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, people kept commenting today that PS2 DOESN'T look better than DC.

We were playing at my friends dorm (I still live at home though...those things suck!). We left the door open and people kept coming by and watching. EVERYONE said the same kind of things. It doesn't look better than DC...

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