Thanks Rip... that article highlights my point, that they probably need to do alot of housecleaning before any fair trials can be had.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
What people are debating now is why he didn't commit suicide as troops were closing in on him. I'm also wondering that.

Edit: I'm getting aggravated listening to officials from the U.S, U.K, Israel saying the typical shit we've been hearing for MONTHS "This capture proves that people who love freedom will prevail against terrorism!" What the fuck does his capture have to do with terrorism?

It's gonna be fun watching Fox News this week. I turned them on for no more than 2 minutes after I woke up and the first thing I hear is "it will remain to be seen exactly what Saddam tells us. Maybe we'll find out about the true France and Russia", or something to that regard. Ugh...

"We distort, you subside"

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Originally posted by FreddiE
I know the old bastard did some horrible things to people, killing kurdish women and children with gas. But America can't possible have anything on him since he didn't do anything to them. Why is it important to get this guy for things he did to other people decades ago? It seems to me that Bush is trying to safe face by spinning this thing.

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Originally posted by Skullknight
He killed about 200,000 Shia Muslims, about 75,000 Kurds. He committed genocide against the Marsh Arabs. He invaded Iran and Kuwait, looting most of Kuwait City. He also killed about 65,000 people in Baghdad for minor political crimes, etc. His crimes against humanity have very little to do with his WMD except the ones he used to gas a Kurdish town.

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Originally posted by magical retart
agreed hundred percent. i wonder where all the FOX NEWS experts are now with thier "i bet he is in france or russia".

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Originally posted by magical retart
i would hope he gets charged for all those things...but i also wonder if any of the "western" powers will be held accountable for providing the means to his actions when he was in his full "evil" mode.

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Originally posted by Z-Man
Screw you.

You have obviously never been in the military nor do you know anything about it.

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Originally posted by milhouse31
I never said it was an easy task but I don't consider him 0wn3d.

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Saddam 'To Face War Crimes Trial'

By Jon Smith, Political Editor, PA News

Saddam Hussein faces trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity, following his capture today.

The Iraqi Governing Council will want to put the humiliated tyrant on trial in the country he terrorised for so long.

He would join fellow leaders of his once-feared Baathist regime in the dock for the murder and torture of his fellow Iraqis.

Lt General Ricardo Sanchez, commander of the US forces in Iraq, today said it had yet to be determined whether, or when, Saddam would be handed over to the Iraqi authorities.

But there is bound to be an almost irresistible clamour from Iraq’s new leadership that they should be seen to be meting out justice in their own land.

The only other realistic alternative would be a specially constituted international tribunal, such as those set up by the United Nations to probe war crime allegations in the former Yugoslavia, and Rwanda.

Professor Anthony Aust, a former legal adviser to the Foreign Office who teaches UN law at the London School of Economics, said today: “I could envisage charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as torture.

“It has been suggested by many people that he should be put on trial for genocide, because of his treatment of the Kurds.

“But genocide, for technical reasons, is very hard to prove.

“It was defined in 1948 by the Geneva Convention and the definition is short and not particularly well-worded.

“It is not easy to prove the intention to wipe out a whole group of people.

“Aggression is also one which would be very difficult to prove for technical reasons.

“The Security Council did not categorise the invasion of Kuwait as aggression. They said it was a breach of international peace and security and they condemned it, but they did not say it was aggression.

“One can throw the book at him without going into the difficult areas of genocide and aggression.

“He could be charged with war crimes, torture, indiscriminate use of force, attacking civilians, taking hostages, mistreatment of prisoners of war.”

Prof Aust said the newly-constituted International Criminal Court – not recognised by the US – only has jurisdiction for crimes committed after it was established in July 2002.

He added: “While there may have been crimes committed after that date by Saddam Hussein, most would have taken place in the previous 30 years.”

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Milhouse, I think he was just trying to "subtly" say "I was in da miltary. I'm kewl"

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Originally posted by Phoenix
I would say you're an idiot - but more likely you're just ignorant of international law.

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Originally posted by FreddiE
Sure, that's why the US finaly did something... man shut up! they acted solely out of own interrest. If this was all about justice, something would have happen years ago. The whole motivation for this war was US's safety, nothing else... But Bush will probably be the big savior now.

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Originally posted by magical retart
i would hope he gets charged for all those things...but i also wonder if any of the "western" powers will be held accountable for providing the means to his actions when he was in his full "evil" mode.

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Originally posted by DarienA
Whatever milhouse your post was bullshit plain and simple.

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Originally posted by FreddiE
If this was all about justice, something would have happen years ago.

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http://veepers02.budlight.com/service/RetrieveCard?id=08DC1C9A-2E57-11D8-B161-B3EE4054966E

CEL-A-BRATE good times, come on!

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Originally posted by Iceman
"All the fundie right wingers might turn against Bush if he let Saddam off easy."

I'm a fundie right winger (just making sure there are no questions about that) and I think this goes way beyond Saddam now. It's about what he knows: bin laden, al qaeda, WMD, locations of other officials, etc.. It has nothing to do with making him pay.

No need to make a legend out of this guy.

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"But America can't possible have anything on him since he didn't do anything to them."

Unless, short term memory guy, he in fact DID have something to do with the attack on the US or with aiding al qaeda in some fashion..

Regardless, WE invaded their country and took their leader so he's ours... at least for now.


"And what if he knows nothing?"

why do you give a genocidal maniac the benefit of the doubt?

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Although your passivness regarding Saddam's capture is disheartening, I can see where you are going. But don't say what you just said to the people here. If the events leading up to the Iraqi invasion and the invasion itself showed something, is that people are extremely ignorant, and will believe almost anything Bush tells them.

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I AM TEH ROBOT.

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Originally posted by Iceman
"But America can't possible have anything on him since he didn't do anything to them."

Unless, short term memory guy, he in fact DID have something to do with the attack on the US or with aiding al qaeda in some fashion..

Regardless, WE invaded their country and took their leader so he's ours... at least for now.


"And what if he knows nothing?"

why do you give a genocidal maniac the benefit of the doubt?

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Originally posted by DarienA
Do we really have to turn this thread into that argument again?

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Those pictures speak louder than words.

Great day for the Iraqi people.

I hope the their fears are now calmed.

:)

U.S. Commander: Tip Led to Saddam Capture
25 minutes ago

By ALEKSANDAR VASOVIC, Associated Press Writer

TIKRIT, Iraq - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was captured based on information from a member of a family "close to him," Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno said Sunday.


Odierno, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division that captured Saddam, said over the last 10 days soldiers have questioned "five to 10 members" of families "close to Saddam."


"Finally we got the ultimate information from one of these individuals," he said.

But I DON'T CARE about that as much as finding out what networks still exist that are capable and willing to attack enormous targets in America on our own soil.

If that freak of nature knows anything about what happened at 9-11 or what kind of terrorist network exists today that threatens our lives right now then I want to know.

Screw debating. We have this jerk now. We need his information.. not to prosecute and punish him for past crimes.

1) The threat now, the threat to us.

2) Past ills.

He'll get his soon enough.. and not by us.. the UN can have him and burn his rear end for killing his own people, but I'm concerned about something more relevant to us NOW.

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Originally posted by Phoenix
And if comments like these say anything, its that people still don't understand geopolitics. Last I recall there were WORLDWIDE protests against going to war which seems to suggest that people aren't extremely ignorant, and that world leaders don't have to do what their populace says just because they're marching in the street. So take your Bush/anti-Bush stuff elsewhere.

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Is that really such a good idea?

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Originally posted by SolidSnakex


Is that really such a good idea?

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we know that gun control laws will not work in iraq anytime soon.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
By saying "don't say what you said to the people here", I was referring to the posters on GAF. And by mentioning Bush, I was obviously refering to the American population. Dumbass.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
By saying "don't say what you said to the people here", I was referring to the posters on GAF. And by mentioning Bush, I was obviously refering to the American population. Dumbass.

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Holy shit
That looks like a big explosion

I would expect a lot more explosions as the remaining loyalists decide to either give up or make one final strike against the coallition.

Interesting that they hit the palestine hotel where the press is based.

Um, most of the American population were FOR the invasion, and still are. Most of them thought Saddam had WMDs, even nukes, and most of them thought Iraq was directly involved in 9/11. Of course there were protests against the war in the U.S, there always is, anywhere, against any government.

So now you see, what I mean by "they will believe anything Bush will tell them" and "most are ignorant"?

Anyway, to get back to the current situation, there is live footage from Baghdad with a column of smoke and reports of explosions.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Um, most of the American population were FOR the invasion, and still are. Most of them thought Saddam had WMDs, even nukes, and most of them thought Iraq was directly involved in 9/11. Of course there were protests against the war in the U.S, there always is, anywhere, against any government.

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"Um, most of the American population were FOR the invasion, and still are..."

"So now you see, what I mean by "they will believe anything Bush will tell them" and "most are ignorant"?"

I have a problem with these two statements.

So being in favor of invading Iraq = being ignorant?

The thing that will get really bad is that with Saddam captured, the revenge killings against his loyalists will get even worse and vice versa.

invading without any real proof i guess.

Eitherway saddam got what he deserved.

YAY!!! Merry Christmas to All!!!!

Oh no! An Al Qeada Santa-bomb!

Not yet..

and I hope "what he deserves" does not end any time soon.

At least I do know that he will be subject to ultimate justice no matter what.

Not that I've seen the most recent poll, but aren't most of the population in the U.S still think they should have invaded? I'm asking. My original post was refering anyway to the pre-war and war state of mind. The posters at GAF, which I was originally refering to (didn't I say that already?), who were for the invasion were justifying it because of WMDs. They then played the 9/11 card, followed by the humanitarian intervention card. That's what I meant by saying they are ignorant. And most people even in the world ARE uninformed about many political happenings, and I don't think you'll argue that.

@ oli

EDIT: Well thank GOD we have people like ghostface0 to point out how dumb the world is... lord knows what we'd do without you.

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Originally posted by Iceman
"Um, most of the American population were FOR the invasion, and still are..."

"So now you see, what I mean by "they will believe anything Bush will tell them" and "most are ignorant"?"

I have a problem with these two statements.

So being in favor of invading Iraq = being ignorant?

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Well that's been debated to death.. especially here..

but the two statements I highlighted constitute a non-sequitor IMO.

And no.. it's not funny being insulted by you.

Just to make it clear, I should have used the term "uninformed" instead of "ignorant" (even though the latter pretty muchs equals the former). It seems I may have sounded insulting, which was not my intention.

He looks like a HOBO!
I want to buy him a sandwich.
Anyone in?

i think we should make him the governor of connecticut. he's got the fiery persona to get things done.

- credit Iceman

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Funny that you chose not to quote what I wrote between those two comments.

Edit: Darien, oh dude just stfu. If you disagree with my post, why don't you point out what part of it you disagree with instead of the usual "omg he is teh idiot because I don't agree with him lets all point and laugh!!!!!1".

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well, not getting into any of the arguments, but having Saddam captured today is a good birthday present for me!

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Just to make it clear, I should have used the term "uninformed" instead of "ignorant" (even though the latter pretty muchs equals the former). It seems I may have sounded insulting, which was not my intention.

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Well, you know what we need to do now:

Thunderdome!!

Bush Vs. Saddam: two men enter, one man leaves.

It took them enough money and enough time to find this token/prize.

The sad thing is that, people will look to this small success (after all what is the capture of a withered beheaded head to a flailing body?) as justification of the idea that might is right - that we need more short sighted people like Bush making critical decisions and spouting rhetorhic in the most important job in the world.

Hell... if there's something I can guess about the government, it's that they'll try to play this capture for as long as they can and deflect the fact they haven't caught their original and main target - one that is still active and has power to wield.

Darien:

un·in·formed ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nn-fôrmd)
adj.
Not having, showing, or making use of information; not informed: uninformed voters; an uninformed decision.

ig·no·rant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

I can't believe I have to explain the equalities between the two terms. That is what you were asking, right?

And its funny that even in his capture, Saddam was reportedly very defiant about his actions of the past. I feel that his trial will be similar to that of Milosevic, who has for the past year basically said F-U to the courts.

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I want George Bush Sr to make a speech

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Originally posted by aparisi2274
Ok, do me a favor, and let me understand what constitutes an "informed" person, and as you put an "uninformed" or "igornant" person? I am curious to know, what makes you an informed person? What news sites are you crediting as to informing you with the most accurate news? Please enlighten us all.

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Iceman, you do know that the US itself came forward and said there was no evidence that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 right? Please give that argument up already. I truly believe there were no WMD when we went in there, and probably hasn't been for a few years now. Also for such a stout christian, you sure quick to judge and talk about ultimate punishments. And not to sound rude or anything , you come off as sort of paranoid.

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At first the US gov't DID seem to present it's people with what seemed to be very solid proof that there was a reason to attack.

In hindsight we see that there were alot of holes in that information presented, but upfront it's pretty hard to say that SOME of data shown didn't look plausible.

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Aparisi, notice I'm not replying to your post? There's no way in HELL I'm gonna try having a discussion about politics with you. I have seen others try in the past, and have seen the resulting mess.

BigJonsson, he already made a little speech this morning. More of the same stuff.

Edit: Sorry, I thought you were talking about Jr.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Darien:

un·in·formed ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nn-fôrmd)
adj.
Not having, showing, or making use of information; not informed: uninformed voters; an uninformed decision.

ig·no·rant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

I can't believe I have to explain the equalities between the two terms. That is what you were asking, right?

And its funny that even in his capture, Saddam was reportedly very defiant about his actions of the past. I feel that his trial will be similar to that of Milosevic, who has for the past year basically said F-U to the courts.

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Originally posted by DarienA
Thank you, now how about addressing the rest of my post?

btrboyev do you think that every country that didn't participate did so because of lack of evidence? I think that's a pie in the sky view of politics.... and unless we see some better candidates things don't seem to be heading towards stopping Bush from getting re-elected.

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Originally posted by Slurpy
Skipping the definition, I can tell you one thing- you for one are incredibly ignorant, and not well informed. Just judging by your past posts.

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that so called car bomb was really a truck that blew up cause a stray bullet hit it when someone fired some celebratory gunshots

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Originally posted by Slurpy
And you seem to have a pie-in-the-sky view of US intent.

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Originally posted by ghostface0
Aparisi, notice I'm not replying to your post? There's no way in HELL I'm gonna try having a discussion about politics with you. I have seen others try in the past, and have seen the resulting mess.

BigJonsson, he already made a little speech this morning. More of the same stuff.

Edit: Sorry, I thought you were talking about Jr.

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Originally posted by aparisi2274
Excuse me, but who gives you the right to tell me if I am informed or not? What makes you an informed person? How do we not know that you are an ignorant, uninformed stooge?

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"Iceman, you do know that the US itself came forward and said there was no evidence that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 right? Please give that argument up already. I truly believe there were no WMD when we went in there, and probably hasn't been for a few years now. Also for such a stout christian, you sure quick to judge and talk about ultimate punishments. And not to sound rude or anything , you come off as sort of paranoid."

I will not consent. But you can label anything you want.

"Also for such a stout christian, you sure quick to judge and talk about ultimate punishments."

What? Saddam = going to hell?

Yeah, that's a stretch.

" you come off as sort of paranoid."

I agree that I can come off as a lot of things.. but paranoid? not one of them.

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Originally posted by Zaptruder
Simply, through the use of logic and memory.

Under the assumption that you haven't changed drastically in the last few months, your history of posts suggests someone that dishes out alot of abuse and little substance to your arguments while in return taking offense to abuse readily while letting the logical arguments slide off.
This allows me to make the inference that you are opinionated, but uninformed - as you are unable or unwilling to properly counter logical arguments against your own position with similar logical arguments.

I mean, I may be off, and this is certainly no formal statement of logic, but this world typically works off a system off experience - and in my experience, you are an uninformed stooge.

Feel free to take offense or prove otherwise.

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Guys and i'll include myself if i've done it so far in this thread... can we keep the personal stuff to a minimum? so far been an interesting thread and i'd hate to see it get locked.

Believe it or not I feel a small amount of pity for the guy. Sure he was a tyrant, and a warlord but he's still a human being, just a very evil one.

I dont know, maybe it's just wishful thinking but I always hoped to catch Sadaam in an epic 2 hour battle taped in high definition. And not by just anyone but by a single bounty hunter or ex commando who hunts him down. Kind of like Arnold or Superman or someone. Then the same guy returns in the sequel to get Osama. Taped in Aghanistan mountains and it ends with a fist fight between Osama and the hero. Then followed by crappy sequels with guys we dont care if there caught or

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Originally posted by aparisi2274
Either way, Saddam is captured, which I seem to remember a bunch of you saying would never happen.

The Economy is getting stronger by the day.

The War still has more supporters than opponents.

BUSH 04

:)

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Originally posted by aparisi2274
Ok, so I am a stooge, because I am a supporter of Bush? I am a stooge, because I support the war. I am stooge because I think bush is doing a great job? Ok, so then I guess I am a stooge. I mean why I would want to spend my days sitting in this thread and argue with people like you, I still dont know why I do it. Oh well, then I guess I am a stooge, and an uninformed person. I mean I guess I will never be the informed, educated, un-ignorant person that you are, or ghostface is, or the other people that have to try and force the pro-war supporters into taking their side.

Either way, Saddam is captured, which I seem to remember a bunch of you saying would never happen.

The Economy is getting stronger by the day.

The War still has more supporters than opponents.

BUSH 04

:)

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Originally posted by DarienA
Thank you, now how about addressing the rest of my post?

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I think if anything one of the benefits of his capture is that one way or the other we'll get answers in regards to when the WMD's went away(how many years ago), and other questions in regards to if Iraq's sphere of influence really did extend that far... IMO the 2nd question being more interesting to me than the first.


EDIT: Ghost hadn't it been shown before that the war that there were some foreigns will some VERY strong corporate ties in Iraq? I never bought in to the 9/11 ties. I did however feel that sufficient evidence was being shown that WMD's were being moved around, etc.

I always get the impression that those who were heavily against the war always try to paint this picture of a fully cooperating Iraq. I've never seen that, cooperation? Yes. Full? I never got that impression.

For the record I think I'll finally weigh in with my own personal statement. I supported the war... with reservation. I never agreed with ALL of the US "facts" being presented, NOR did I ever believe that the US was only invading for human rights reasons... I also felt that the US wasn't JUST(as in not the only reason) there for oil... which seems to be the major reason anti-war folks use HOWEVER I also felt that regardless of the reasons being presented that it was something that in the long run would benefit the Iraqis and that was why I supported it. The mass graves thing... in this day and age? Disgusting.

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Originally posted by Iceman


"Also for such a stout christian, you sure quick to judge and talk about ultimate punishments."

What? Saddam = going to hell?

Yeah, that's a stretch.

" you come off as sort of paranoid."

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Originally posted by aparisi2274
Ok, so I am a stooge, because I am a supporter of Bush? I am a stooge, because I support the war. I am stooge because I think bush is doing a great job? Ok, so then I guess I am a stooge. I mean why I would want to spend my days sitting in this thread and argue with people like you, I still dont know why I do it. Oh well, then I guess I am a stooge, and an uninformed person. I mean I guess I will never be the informed, educated, un-ignorant person that you are, or ghostface is, or the other people that have to try and force the pro-war supporters into taking their side.

Either way, Saddam is captured, which I seem to remember a bunch of you saying would never happen.

The Economy is getting stronger by the day.

The War still has more supporters than opponents.

BUSH 04

:)

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Originally posted by evil ways
Believe it or not I feel a small amount of pity for the guy. Sure he was a tyrant, and a warlord but he's still a human being, just a very evil one.

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Well....I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been said.

So...let's hope this all turn out alright.

That picture is great

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Originally posted by magical retart
last i remember a lot more people worldwide were against the war then for it...

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Originally posted by Teh Hamburglar

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Originally posted by Phoenix
This certainly causes some issues for the democratic position since last week they heavily endorsed Dean who is a huge opponent of the war and critic of our success. Now that Saddam is captured it will be interesting to see if that position wavers any.

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Originally posted by DarienA
Regardless of the validity of your arguments... the above statement simply cannot be proven as true. Of course you're going to see more anti-war protests... that's how the news works. That's how people in general work.

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Originally posted by Zaptruder
Simply, through the use of logic and memory.

Under the assumption that you haven't changed drastically in the last few months, your history of posts suggests someone that dishes out alot of abuse and little substance to your arguments while in return taking offense to abuse readily while letting the logical arguments slide off.
This allows me to make the inference that you are opinionated, but uninformed - as you are unable or unwilling to properly counter logical arguments against your own position with similar logical arguments.

I mean, I may be off, and this is certainly no formal statement of logic, but this world typically works off a system off experience - and in my experience, you are an uninformed stooge.

Feel free to take offense or prove otherwise.

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Originally posted by Iceman
Holy War?

IF.. IF.. so.. then are we responsible for every holy war in the world?

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Good News For America, Bad News For Democrats.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/

"someone trying really, really, really hard to be Hitler, but failing."

Uh...so finding possibly over a million bodies from mass graves in Iraq is a failure? Good fucking night.

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Originally posted by magical retart
well yeah ur right...but do u honestly believe that there are more people in europe for the war. sure they dont come out to support...but when the govt is against it and i have no seen even one protest for the war our of europe....im going to make a edumacational guess and say that there are more people who were against the war then for.

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Originally posted by Spiritum Noctis
Good News For America, Bad News For Democrats.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/

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i just woke up and saw the news

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Originally posted by DarienA
I don't live in Europe... I have enough trouble understanding the likes and dislikes of THIS country let alone trying to figure out another one.

You generally don't see FOR WAR protests... because that's generally not what the nature of a protest is.... Hell looking back over history even fully supported wars had more anti-war protests than for war support rallys.

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"I'm going to celebrate by taking pain killers, and selling what I don't take to others."

Yes, he admitted to taking pain killers but he doesn't sell them to others. Put down the Enquirer...

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Originally posted by Spiritum Noctis
"someone trying really, really, really hard to be Hitler, but failing."

Uh...so finding possibly over a million bodies from mass graves in Iraq is a failure? Good fucking night.

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oh great let the Hitler vs Saddam comparisons begin!

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Originally posted by Cubsfan23
oh great let the Hitler vs Saddam comparisons begin!

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Originally posted by Spiritum Noctis
Good News For America, Bad News For Democrats.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/

"someone trying really, really, really hard to be Hitler, but failing."

Uh...so finding possibly over a million bodies from mass graves in Iraq is a failure? Good fucking night.

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Originally posted by xsarien
Got a link for that number?
Have any idea how much higher Hitler's body count was in Germany *alone*?

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Originally posted by Spiritum Noctis
Good News For America, Bad News For Democrats.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/

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