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Gahiggidy
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(02-26-03 04:15:30 PM)
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Originally posted by nubbe
Wounder what license Nintendo will be treating Konami with... Pokemon?
I say give 'em Baloon Flight. :mad

ps. Cool news.

xsarien
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(02-26-03 04:16:33 PM)
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Ice Climbers.

ExtremeGamer311
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(02-26-03 04:16:55 PM)
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I didn't think it would be possible to top the show put on at E3 2002, but it looks like Nintendo has found another way. I mean, just look at what titles will probably be shown at this years E3:

F-Zero
Mario Kart
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Soul Calibur 2
Virtua Fighter Quest
Mario Tennis
Wario World
Metal Gear Solid (in all likelihood 3)
Tales of Symphonia (aka Tales of Phantasia)
Baten Kaitos
1080: Avalanche
Mario Golf
Pokemon GC (due out in Summer in Japan, wouldn't doubt it being shown)
Kirby's Air Ride
Pikmin 2
Starcraft: Ghost
Resident Evil 4
Project Number 03
Viewtiful Joe
Dead Phoenix
Killer 7
Megaman EXE Transmission
Sonic Adventure DX
Phantasy Star Online: Card Battle
Metroid Prime 2 (hey, couldn't hurt to wish)

And much, more more. I'm going to be absolutely blown away.

Simply put, the Gamecube's E3 2003 lineup= :eek

unicron5
Lazy8s Redux
(02-26-03 04:17:22 PM)
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I'd love to see Kojima's team tackle Metroid, but that'll probably never happen.

Donkey Kong might be a prime candidate for farming out to Konami or Namco or Capcom or Sega, etc. etc.

E3 2003 will poop all over E3 2002. E3 2002 was mostly upgrades to old franchises and all Nintendo software.

This year we'll actually have third-party stuff out the ying-yang. I'm more interested in the third-party stuff to be honest, but I'm anxiously anticipating Mario Kart GC and EAD's new games.

Azrael
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(02-26-03 04:17:28 PM)
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A Yugioh/Pokemon crossover?

Dracos2
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(02-26-03 04:17:30 PM)
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IMO GBA-GC connectivity was useless before the SP. The battery pack/light combo is going to open up tons of possibilities.

Rhage Furi
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Just the first one? Must be one hell of a port. :P



Agreed and we all thought MGS2:Substance was old.

The_Bookerman
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(02-26-03 04:17:50 PM)
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Raiden GC exclusive = one more Nintendo Mangina.

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the real MG games will remain on other platforms, just like with FF:CC. Just nintendo paying big bucks to have a 'metal gear' game like their ff game hoping itll sell off its name


Considering the, uh, "strained" relationship between Konami and Nintendo in the past several years, getting any Metal Gear game - original or not, side-story or not - is good news.

explodet
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(02-26-03 04:18:32 PM)
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Originally posted by Azrael
A Yugioh/Pokemon crossover?
EVIL! EVIL! SEND IT TO HELL!!



otheranthony-ns
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(02-26-03 04:20:14 PM)
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Originally posted by unicron5
Miyamoto also spoke of more collaborations with Sega and Namco to be forthcoming.


When was this?


quote:
Originally posted by FoxDie
the real MG games will remain on other platforms, just like with FF:CC. Just nintendo paying big bucks to have a 'metal gear' game like their ff game hoping itll sell off its name



TROLLTASTIC! :eek

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Lazy8s Redux
(02-26-03 04:21:06 PM)
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Now that Nintendo's "cozy" with everybody they should make a gigantic cross over game with Nintendo, Sega, Square-Enix, Konami, Namco, and Capcom characters :)

SolidSnakex
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(02-26-03 04:22:25 PM)
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They're cozy with Kojima, and Kojimas always had nice things to say about Nintendo. That doesn't mean they're cozy with Konami in general.

The_Bookerman
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(02-26-03 04:22:51 PM)
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Now that Nintendo's "cozy" with everybody they should make a gigantic cross over game with Nintendo, Sega, Square-Enix, Konami, Namco, and Capcom characters :)


Why not include staffers from every company make a game out of it and call team, the MEGA-Dream team.

GDGF
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(02-26-03 04:22:58 PM)
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Some of us on the GA forum are very good guessers :D

Rei Toei
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and he's the one that cancelled both Snatcher and Policenauts


And I guess I should hate him for that :) Give me some good (SD) Snatcher lovin'!

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Lazy8s Redux
(02-26-03 04:23:17 PM)
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I mean in terms of securing these kinds of "collaborative" deals, now Konami is finally in the fold.

Darkshire
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(02-26-03 04:23:49 PM)
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People are starting to get scary now. :P

FoxDie
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(02-26-03 04:24:23 PM)
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where have we heard that idea before bookerman ?

The_Bookerman
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where have we heard that idea before bookerman ?


:confused I don't know ;)

GDGF
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(02-26-03 04:27:12 PM)
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Think about this. Once this and all other co developed and exclusive titles announced come out for the Gamecube, it will have the best software library of any nintendo home console since the SNES days.
It's got a few more years in it, so it might even trump the SNES!

SolidSnakex
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(02-26-03 04:28:11 PM)
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"And I guess I should hate him for that Give me some good (SD) Snatcher lovin'!"

He doesn't think either of them are any good (thats what he said not me). So I guess you can dislike him for that.

Panajev2001a
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(02-26-03 04:30:41 PM)
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otherantony...

RE: Remake is the Care Bears compared to some scenes and the realistic approach to them in MGS...

MGS has quite a bit of violence and it is not presented like a a bit cheesy ( "Jill, the master of unlocking" ) B-Movie ( and do not get me wrong I have always liked a lot RE 1 )...

Does RE: Remake have ( visual ) torture, quite clear allusions to rape, etc... ?

Rei Toei
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(02-26-03 04:31:55 PM)
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I guess so. A SD Snatcher should be possible on any platform, if they'd stick to 2D.

Even Metal Gear could wait IMHO if Konami where to release an Snatcher with a tuned up SoL Engine or better, deep storyline, DMC gameplay and Neo-Kobe scifi setting alike *dreams away once again*.

Too bad he said he won't do any Snatcher games anymore. Maybe we should donate for a pornmag fund for Koji, to persuade him.

SolidSnakex
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(02-26-03 04:34:57 PM)
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I think the main reason he doesn't want to do anymore of those is because he doesn't think many people liked the games because they didn't sell well. So he just doesn't see any reason to make anymore of them.

Still they should've atleast released Policenauts. Thats where Meryl came from afterall.

unicron5
Lazy8s Redux
(02-26-03 04:35:21 PM)
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Nintendo doesn't really give a f-ck about content, it's in the hands of the ESRB and that's their stance on it.

Resident Evil is ridiculously gory and violent though, either way it's an M-rated game, and Eternal Darkness is pretty damned twisted and disturbed too. Killer 7 doesn't look like a game for boy scouts either.

I think really when Nintendo gave the greenlight to a commercial with a blonde bimbo basically jerking off a squirrel in a TV ad a few years ago, all bets were off.

It's funny that in a lot of ways Nintendo can get away with murder and still maintain their squeaky-clean image.

teiresias
(02-26-03 04:36:56 PM)

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cmbjive
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(02-26-03 04:39:05 PM)
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Originally posted by teiresias
It doesn't have to beat the SNES, it has to beat the PSX and PS2.

If anything, the whole developer "turn around" (if you really want to call it that, it seems more like throwing bones to me), might be a whole "a fellow Japanese company is getting pounded in the worldwide market by M$, let's help them . . . somewhat."



This is so stupid that it doesn't even warrant a response.

Wait a minute...

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otheranthony-ns
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(02-26-03 04:39:32 PM)
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otherantony...

RE: Remake is the Care Bears compared to some scenes and the realistic approach to them in MGS...

MGS has quite a bit of violence and it is not presented like a a bit cheesy ( "Jill, the master of unlocking" ) B-Movie ( and do not get me wrong I have always liked a lot RE 1 )...

Does RE: Remake have ( visual ) torture, quite clear allusions to rape, etc... ?




Yes, that's all well and good but the fact is RE has always been a like that. Nintendo didn't touch it. The same way they aren't going to tamper with MGS GC.

I seriously doubt Nintendo will dictate to Kojima what makes a good Metal Gear title and you'd naive to think Nintendo hasn't changed it's policies regarding adult content on the GC.

Anyways, we've beaten this drum before when RE was about to launch. Nintendo will not tamper with Kojima's work. They don't want to and Kojima wouldn't allow it.

Gahiggidy
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(02-26-03 04:39:49 PM)
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Originally posted by teiresias
It doesn't have to beat the SNES, it has to beat the PSX and PS2.

If anything, the whole developer "turn around" (if you really want to call it that, it seems more like throwing bones to me), might be a whole "a fellow Japanese company is getting pounded in the worldwide market by M$, let's help them . . . somewhat."

Whatever...the result's still the same. :)

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The developer turn-around really is because Nintendo sends Miyamoto and Iwata and other DESIGNERS to talk to the DESIGNERS at other companies.

There is a deep-rooted "club" of Japanese businessmen, but even deeper than that is the designers.

These guys know each other. They may not admit it openly but they've followed each other's work from the 1980s up and have become millionaires in the process.

Miyamoto and company simply speak the same language and they get their point across.

Miyamoto is also basically regarded as a god of game design in Japan, and when he comes knocking at your door, you f-cking listen. Simple as that.

That's where Nintendo trumps Microsoft in terms of courting Japanese developers.

shone
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Originally posted by teiresias
It doesn't have to beat the SNES, it has to beat the PSX and PS2.

If anything, the whole developer "turn around" (if you really want to call it that, it seems more like throwing bones to me), might be a whole "a fellow Japanese company is getting pounded in the worldwide market by M$, let's help them . . . somewhat."

it really depends on how you define "pounded", if getting "pounded"=making crap load of money while the "pounder" losing crap load of money, please pound me everyday.

Ghost
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(02-26-03 04:42:00 PM)
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Wow cool, hope kojima doesnt get any fruity GBA link up ideas, i bet he puts his sun detector in so we can only play if its dark!

Rei Toei
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Snatcher as well as SD Snatcher did not sell well? Why did they bother to re-release Snatcher on Mega-CD, then?

Anyway, Snatcher was, say what, ten years ago? I'd like to think times are different now.. I'd also like to think the average gamer would rather see Gillian then the Cy Girls :) Or maybe not, come to think of it.

But the retro-Sci-fi look would be hip =)

Gahiggidy
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The developer turn-around really is because Nintendo sends Miyamoto and Iwata and other DESIGNERS to talk to the DESIGNERS at other companies.

There is a deep-rooted "club" of Japanese businessmen, but even deeper than that is the designers.

These guys know each other. They may not admit it openly but they've followed each other's work from the 1980s up and have become millionaires in the process.

Miyamoto and company simply speak the same language and they get their point across.

That's where Nintendo trumps Microsoft in terms of courting Japanese developers.

Meanwhile, the western developers are all subserviant to thier publishers who could care less about history or reputation. They'll port a game wherever they see a decent chance at profits.

unicron5
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(02-26-03 04:45:10 PM)
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Yeah the West is different.

I think though Nintendo would benefit from at least putting a few more resources over here. I think Free Radical would be a good pick up for them for starters.

The other difference is the game designers in Japan have much more say in the directions their company go in. It's not good business to piss off your star designers because they might defect or just flat out quit.

Dracos2
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(02-26-03 04:45:21 PM)
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I find it funny that everybody always talks about Nintendo's lack of forward thought and planning, yet IMO this whole buddy system of loaning out franchise is the absolute best thing they can do for the future and current generation. They are showing developers an open side that should seriously help to counter their loner stigma of past generations.

SolidSnakex
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(02-26-03 04:45:43 PM)
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I think they were trying to build a fanbase for the series, but it just didn't happen.

And the Cy Girls actually sounds pretty cool. Its basically a very stylish version of Metal Gear, but with more action. It looks pretty cool in motion too.

But definetly, Snatchers setting looks far more interesting than Cy Girls does. It'd be cool to see them just remake it completely in 3D. Any of Kojimas games now basically get decent sales, so it won't be like they're losing money on it, especially if they just use one of their engines that they have already.

The_Bookerman
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Yes, that's all well and good but the fact is RE has always been a like that. Nintendo didn't touch it. The same way they aren't going to tamper with MGS GC.

I seriously doubt Nintendo will dictate to Kojima what makes a good Metal Gear title and you'd naive to think Nintendo hasn't changed it's policies regarding adult content on the GC.

Anyways, we've beaten this drum before when RE was about to launch. Nintendo will not tamper with Kojima's work. They don't want to and Kojima wouldn't allow it.



To add to that, did you know that the GC version of BMX XXX had the exclusive Breast meter, naked chick CAB and that wet t-shirt girl from Z-axis.

The only thing I've seen Nintendo sensor is the cigarettes in the GB version of MGS.

Gahiggidy
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(02-26-03 04:46:47 PM)
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Mister Miyamoto, if it had to choose, would buy one Xbox or one Playstation 2?

-- Miyamoto (laughing of taste): I will say to you, the Xbox costs more of Playstation 2? However creed that, to part this, I would buy a Playstation 2, but because some of my old companions of studies hour only work just to the Sony?
Hey! What about Ken Lobb?

Zaks
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@ Miyamoto suddenly just mentioning it out of the blue.

unicron5
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Has Ken Lobb even technically designed anything?

He seemed more like the towel boy for Nintendo and Rare "great work out there, fellas!".

skillet93
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