posted 10-18-2000 09:46 AM            

Things like running at 60fps,moving fingers,casting shadows over himself(never seen before in a game!!!!) and showing people they don't need THE SORRY DVD's player(ammidetly first edit was too rude )

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posted 10-18-2000 09:51 AM               

And this game has jaggies in the pics. But they look INCREDIBLE and we already know it's going to play incredible as well.

It looks like Sega has early 2001 sewn up as well with Sonic2, PSO and Daytona: Online Racing! Yay!

TRO

posted 10-18-2000 09:52 AM               

However, a word of caution though. Everyone expects this one to run at 60 fps while there is ABSOLUTELY no confirmation anywhere that it does or will. I'd be happy with the major detail improvements alone, it being at 60 fps with be extra sweet, though not likely.

posted 10-18-2000 10:00 AM            

Those LQQK AWEOSME!!!!!!

Q for u though baron?

Do u (OR anyone know) IF this Sonic will b like the last one? OR like the Genesis Sonic?

Thankx for the pics. baron-karza

Cheers!

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Smacks himself to make damn sure this isn't a dream.....NOPE...that hurt....IT's really happening.

posted 10-18-2000 10:08 AM               

I mean seriously. Don't TRY and be underwhelmed. The game looks fantastic. And if you are a gamer(as I'm sure you describe yourself as) you'd have played the first one and realize just how fantastic this second one will be. How do I know? The first one started as a Saturn product and shaped for the DC. SA2 STARTED as a DC project with Sonic Team having a lot of experience in dealing with it.

No disrespect intended but you DO sound silly. Like one of those jerks in an art museum saying Michaelangelo's work is "adequate" at best(Yes, I heard a guy say that).

posted 10-18-2000 10:11 AM               

I never ever recalled hearing that SA2 would be 60 FPS, and always wanted to say something to everyone that yaps about the it running at that speed. But since everyone seems to have accepted it as fact, I figured I just missed out on something.......

posted 10-18-2000 10:25 AM            

For the first time,even NPC and moving objects in the game(such as cars) are overshadowed by objects in the BG.

And the skaters are very well lighted...but when their arms are upon their legs,their arms don't cast shadows on their legs or feet(as seen in the last SA2 pic).

And that, believe me, is quite an achievement!

posted 10-18-2000 10:45 AM            

Anyway it seems to me as if this will play a lot as SA on DC.

posted 10-18-2000 10:50 AM            

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BTW, what is that dark rectangle on Sonic's hand in the last pic?

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posted 10-18-2000 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by dark1x:
If you are interested.

Jet Set Radio ALSO had the shadow casting effect over themselves. THAT is very very impressive and is also very rare. Hmmmm, I think that someone has figured out an extra feature on the PowerVR.

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posted 10-18-2000 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by The Radiant One:
456, in your attempt to sound like some all-knowing graphix guru, you actually sound kind of silly. There are VERY few games I have seen, and since I've been playing games since 1979 I've seen a LOT, that match these textures.

I mean seriously. Don't TRY and be underwhelmed. The game looks fantastic. And if you are a gamer(as I'm sure you describe yourself as) you'd have played the first one and realize just how fantastic this second one will be. How do I know? The first one started as a Saturn product and shaped for the DC. SA2 STARTED as a DC project with Sonic Team having a lot of experience in dealing with it.

No disrespect intended but you DO sound silly. Like one of those jerks in an art museum saying Michaelangelo's work is "adequate" at best(Yes, I heard a guy say that).

TRO

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I'm offering my opinion. Some of the textures seem to be low res, and the diversity of colors is disappointing. I'm also turned off by the suburban settings in the first pic. I hope that's but for a fleeting moment and not the primary locale in the game. I had no idea the requisite response was hysterical euphoria.

posted 10-18-2000 10:59 AM            

They showed very complex monsters in an arena.They were too good to be on DC,but at that time none could tell it since DC wasn't even out!!

Anyway i remember reading a post on DCtech pages,made by a programmer,saying that those pics were surely fake since the monsters were too complex and because they casted shadows over themselves!!

PS:Crazy taxy has this feature.But you have to admit that two standing fins aren't comparable to moving head and arms shadowing a moving/stretching body!

And that dark rectangle seems like an error caused by a complex/realtime algoritme

posted 10-18-2000 11:02 AM               

Annnnnnnyway, I know this game will simply be amazing...like all Sonic Team games.

posted 10-18-2000 11:11 AM               

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it was obvious(well, obvious to people who can distinquish 30fps from 60fps) that the scenes that were shown from the game were running at 60fps.

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posted 10-18-2000 11:42 AM               

you are sad m8

cant help taking any opportunity to dis the ps2. post a game, its better than the ps2, and your signature is pathetic.!

All it looks like, is that you feel very insecure about your current choice of console.

There is no need to try and prove about about the ps2 each time you post a message.

grow up

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posted 10-18-2000 11:43 AM               

Very nice stuff!

posted 10-18-2000 11:46 AM            

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But an animated character shadowing itself is a different feat., and usually quite expensive. So if this is indeed in game (I will believe it when I see it move), it is quite impressive indeed.

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Thanks Fafalada

Maybe these pics are fake but it would be first time in sonicteam history...

PS:gaijiin-it's not a need.It's fun!

posted 10-18-2000 11:54 AM               

Took hi-res comparable pics from both games. The difference is in the small details. Though if SA2 is indeed running at 60 fps then this 120% improvement, kinda like Saturn VF2 was to Saturn VF1 (Remix).

Bottom line, this is kind of a testament of how gorgeous the original SA was. The sequel has some big shoes to fill.

Saturnman

posted 10-18-2000 11:57 AM            

I really like the first pix, but the other 2 don't seem all that special to me. Kinda like a high-res DK64...

posted 10-18-2000 12:11 PM               

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Originally posted by Gasara:
Probly it is just me, but i have a huge urge to kill those freakin little blue punks. I hated them in the first place and i hate them now. I hope u will be able to kill them with that new dark sonic.

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Been there, done that.

Saturnman

posted 10-18-2000 12:38 PM               

More of them... why not post them all the first time?

Edit: Wow, Frontpage is real good. The picture code doesn't even work... had to edit it in Notepad.

posted 10-18-2000 12:46 PM               

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Originally posted by Hornet41:
it seems SA2 has better filtering. Unlike SA1, you don't get those obvious lines of blurriness (bilinear filtering, I presume?) along the ground textures in SA2.

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If there ever was a gross graphical annoyance about DC hardware, this is it. Crazy Taxi also has it.

I too noticed that SA2 seems to have eliminate it. Doesn't seem like an unavoidable flaw like the blurriness of all N64 games. Many early DC games were clean from the get-go.

Saturnman

posted 10-18-2000 03:14 PM            

In that first picture, right at the top of the yellow house, you can see another movie poster ad, onlt this time the movie being advertised is "Chao in Space 2"! I don't think it's a wrestling ppv, border. =P

posted 10-18-2000 03:20 PM               

THE CHAO'S RETURN!!! YEAH!!!