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Folken

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Don't know if this was posted already, but DAMN it looks good! (WHY isn't it on GBA also??!!

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Although that does look good, I can live without Square on GBA and I still have no doubt that GBA will kill Wonderswan Color. GBA has Enix, Game Arts, Natsume, etc, etc. I'll be perfectly happy with my GBA.

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Lookd awesome.

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WHOA! I didn't know that it was a remake. Cool, a Crazy Pony...nice names for the characters, good ol' AAAA and stuff.
I just thought that it was a rerelease, not a remake. That looks FF6 quality, for the characters' sprites at least.
Any news on price (for system and games), and a release date?
I can live without Square on GBA (would be nice tho), and on WSC...
Please tell me you know any extra info, Folken.
Oh yeah, do you have any of those Maxi-Single CD's? I gotta question about them.

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posted 09-01-2000 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xellos     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Xellos      
Hey, that's pretty cool. It looks just like Final Fantasy III on SNES. Too bad about the glare though.

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posted 09-01-2000 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boa Constrictor     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Boa Constrictor      
Well, they said that its not as expensive as GBA.

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posted 09-01-2000 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DominusDefunctorum     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DominusDefunctorum      
and no one said you wouldn't phantom...

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Whoa! This is looking really nice...
Looks like Nintendo actually has some compitition this time. But once Nintendo whips out the pokemon games... It's all over.

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Huh? Are you implying something Dominus? Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...

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posted 09-01-2000 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DominusDefunctorum     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DominusDefunctorum      
Hey red, you can find anything you want on the WS color over at Famitsu...

The price is around 65 bucks (including an FF game I believe)...

Anyone thinking that this baby won't sell in japan is out of their minds. Honestly, it won't touch GBA in terms of profit but it will do just fine IMHO

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Wow, that thing will sell like hot cakes in japan..Until GBA releases.

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posted 09-01-2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DominusDefunctorum     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DominusDefunctorum      
Phantom, you said that you'll be perfectly happy with your GBA and I said that no one said you won't...

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posted 09-01-2000 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red Scarlet     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Red Scarlet      UIN: 53250275
So $65 for the system + ff1?
I'm sold, but when's the release?

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Yes, but what are the chances of developers continuing support when GBA strikes?

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Yet you said it with a cocky little smirk.

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Again, the game (according to famitus) will be included and will be a FF game, but no more detail on the game itself...

The price is set in stone at around 65 us dollars.

Release date is later this year (I believe its around december but Ill have to double check).

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posted 09-01-2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DominusDefunctorum     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DominusDefunctorum      
The smirk was an indication that the previous statement was a harmless JOKE!!!

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Mmhmm.

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Why are the buttons so damn low? Has anyone held a WonderSwan before? That button position looks uncomfortable.

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looks like too much space between some of the button sets.

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no no no no no

The Wonderswan color ITSELF is 6800 yen.

There will be a special bundle w/Final Fantasy released at the same time (it is a launch title) for 9999 Yen (closer to $100 than $65). Final Fantasy by itself will cost 4800 Yen.

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I have held a Wonderswan before. The shape of the original is exactly the same as the new color one.

Button layout was fine. I had a weird time figuring out which d-pad is default, but everything felt confortable in my hands. Much better than it looks. Oh, and the game I played was one of the SD Super Robot Wars titles in case you were wondering. (I spent about 5 minutes playing the thing and that's it)

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Has there been any word on a US release for the WSC yet?

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I don't understand. Does the Wonderswan have two sets of direction buttons?

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Just read Folken's post which answered my last question. What good is it to have two sets of d-pads on the same side? Instead of making hokey controls, what they should have done is make some more regular buttons. That way games like Street Fighter will feel right at home.

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posted 09-01-2000 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Folken   Click Here to Email Folken     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Folken      UIN: 33013847
Check it out...

It's FF4 on the original Wonderswan

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Cool, yet another reason for me to get one..portable FF4 (hard version pleaaaaaaase) would be rockin'.
Are there any plans of it getting colorized?

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Neat, no Wonder Swan for me though.

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Doubtful Red. The game was supposed to hit the Wonderswan in May. I dont think it did....

It's possible Square cancelled the game and instead focused all it's energy on the enhanced color re-releases of FF1-3 for the new Color system.

Of course, I coudl be wrong, and the game may be on store shelves right now out there, but I doubt it is. Assuming the FF1-3 sell well, it is possible Square may release FF4 later i color enhanced form as well...(Definately would be hardtype. Easytpe was released under a different subtitle for them out there. But FF4 is definately Hardtype)

Oh and I also dug up a Klonoa pic for Wonderswan I will post shortly....

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Folken: The president of Bandai stated at the unveiling of the WSC that Square intends to port Final Fantasies I through VI to the console as well as the Seiken and Saga series.

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Phantom: I severely doubt anyone thinks Wonder Swan won't get it's butt mopped all over the floor by Gameboy: Advance.

I'd buy a Wonder Swan, if it came out here with Final Fantasy IV or VI the only ones I like, otherwise I wouldn't go to the trouble of importing one, not when I have FFIV on SNES already.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alex:
Phantom: I severely doubt anyone thinks Wonder Swan won't get it's butt mopped all over the floor by Gameboy: Advance.

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Yeah, it might get its butt kicked eventually. But with Square on its side, nothing will stop it from giving the GBA a run for its money.

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An old ported Square game every now and then isn't going to save it, it sure didn't do much for the old WonderSwan.

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Here are some more pics...



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Whee!....

BTW, GBA will most definately mop the floor with the system. But this is fun seeing these pics. (Klonoa is in the other lonoa thread)

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Well, I've been waiting for a portable SNES to play FF4-6 on it (and a few other games), so if the WSC is going to have parts 1-6 on it, then that makes a big part of my wishes come true, so sign me uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

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LOL. Why are some people so happy to say that the GBA will "kill" the Wonderswan? Imagine if someone said that the PS2/GC/Xbox would kill every other consoles? We'd have a nice flamewar over that. I guess it's because Bandai isn't the first company that pops into your mind when thinking about videogames.

Personally, I think any kind of competition in the handheld market is welcome. And the Wonderswan Color will do relatively well, just like its predecessor did, as it is aimed at a different audience.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Snake:
Personally, I think any kind of competition in the handheld market is welcome. And the Wonderswan Color will do relatively well, just like its predecessor did, as it is aimed at a different audience.

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I completely agree. If Wonderswan was to give the GB some serious competition, maybe we will finally be able to see portable game prices drop. Gameboy game prices have been stagnated for years due to Nintendo's monapoly on the market.

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Wow, the Wonderswan seemed to have better support than I though, with games like Rockman, Pocket Fighter, Klonoa, and Final Fantasy IV. Too bad it was B&W.

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Oh, and SotN was also ported to the system. I am not sure if it released or got cancelled or what. I am too tired to find a pic right now, but I do know it was planned. (Seen the pics)

Still, Wonderswan was never that popular in Japan. It had hype when it released and did somewhat well in the beginning, but ever since sales have dropped dramatically. It did have VERY strong support(hence the hype), but came at a bad time. I hardly saw many stores carrying the console or games there. I really hope for the vest from the Color version and I don't WISH it to fail, but I really have a feeling GBA will overshadow this machine, even there. You never know though... Prove me wrong Bandai!

Besides, I am with Scarlet. Just the fact that Seiken Densetsu 2 and FF1-6 will be arriving on the machine is enough for me. I would love to play those games portable!

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