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Topic: DC News: Dreamcast upgrade kit. Convert
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dog 4
lyfe
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Posts: 26
Reg: Sep 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:37 AM 
   
To make perfect port of Virtua Fighter X and other Naomi 2 games,
Sega decided to release "graphic upgrade kit" for DC. The info. on
this kit is scarce, but it will definitely improve DC's graphic
power. That means... if you install this upgrade kit, your DC will
be able to display Naomi 2's graphic.
Sega of Japan will likely
release this kit for less than 9,800 yen (95 USD).
source http://www.videogame.co.kr/
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vertigo
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Posts: 2623
Reg: Mar 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:39 AM
WTF???If this true then how the hell can you install this upgrade
kit?
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Solid
Snake
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Reg: May 99 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:44 AM
I'll believe it when it's announced on a bigger named site. But if
it's true, then it's fine with me. 95 isn't a bad price to be able
to run a new Virtua Fighter perfectly. This will also allow the DC
to keep up with PS2, GC, XBox graphics.
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Edge
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posted 09-22-2000 12:45 AM
KICKASS! But what country is that from? Kr???
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matouya
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Reg: Aug 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:47 AM
are you sure this is not BS?
I cant read the site, its messed up
in my computer, what language is that?
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vertigo
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Posts: 2623
Reg: Mar 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:49 AM
IF its true then great for the DC but honesty I think its BS.If its
true then Sega would have to STRONGLY market/advertise that
thing everywhere.
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aerofx
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Reg: Feb 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:50 AM
What? Is this a joke? If not.. I'd drop 100 dollars quickly for
Naomi 2 specs.
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bastardly
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Reg: Aug 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:51 AM
If this is true, strike 3.
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Cool8man
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Reg: Jun 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 12:52 AM
That idea sucked the first time when they called it 32X.
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Solid
Snake
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posted 09-22-2000 12:53 AM
KR is for Korea.
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vertigo
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posted 09-22-2000 12:55 AM
For Sega sake they better hope this doesn't go they way of the
32X.If they did something like pack it in a game like Nintendo
packed in the 4MB ram cart in DK64 then I see it doing fairly well
but if you have to buy it seperatly then I don't see it living that
long.
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bastardly
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posted 09-22-2000 12:59 AM
I say this is fake, SEGA can't be this foolish, even a 6 year old
knows after the second time touching a hot stove hurts. Why not just
push the DC to its max and release it on there? T3 was hardly
graphically arcade perfect, but played like it. More false news
story from countries no one ever payed attention to before, for
gaming news that is.
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vertigo
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posted 09-22-2000 01:03 AM
If this is true which I also doubt how they going to install the
thing?Its not like the DC have interchangeable chips and Sega should
know this won't be supported much since its an add-on.
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tomatoes
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Posts: 1123
Reg: Apr 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 01:11 AM
if this is true i expect the next batch of DC's to just incorporate
it for the same price as an average DC.heck their already losing
money on Seganet and giving out 150 checks.they were ready to give
out 200 dollar ones.
if this is true then the DC is going back up to $199.sega might
as well make this a rebate thing for people who buys a new big name
game.like VFX or sign up for seganet and get the upgrade for free.
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Hornet41
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posted 09-22-2000 01:28 AM
I'm with vertigo. How would you install the thing? Though I would
pay $95 for an arcade-perfect VF4 alone, what makes this any
different from the 32X? Maybe if the installation is clean, and it's
supported with plenty of great software, the unthinkable could
occur: a successful console add-on. 
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Solid
Snake
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Reg: May 99 |
posted 09-22-2000 01:29 AM
Not just VFX, if it can make the DC run Planet Harriers correctly,
then that's a big reason to pick it up. The game looks and sounds
awesome.
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TK Mai
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Posts: 352
Reg: Sep 99 |
posted 09-22-2000 01:32 AM
Not happening, that Korean site must be hurting for news. The
fastest expansion port on the DC runs at 25Mhz and is 16-bits wide.
Fast enough for a graphical upgrade? Not even close. Any "upgrade"
would be a complete Naomi2 that connects with the Dreamcast for
output. ¥9800 is a ridiculous price for SH-4, CLXx2, 32MB main RAM,
32MB video RAM and 32MB for vertex data.
Console upgrades don't work unless designed from the get-go like
N64's RAM expansion. The rumored cart upgrade for VF3 Saturn never
happened, the PSX-TypeC for Tekken 3 never happened. Naomi2 upgrade
for DC will most likely never surface.
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[This message has been edited by TK Mai (edited
09-22-2000).]
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AaronJ
Member
Posts: 296
Reg: Jul 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 02:56 AM
Yeah.
This is complete BULL SH*T.
There will be no Naomi2 upgrade for Dreamcast. That is close to
impossible.
The Dreamcast cannot be upgraded with
better or
more processors. Or RAM.
Dreamcast can only be expanded with
network
cards/zipdrive/dvd-drive/mouse/
microphone/memory cards &
maybe a
harddrive. But no upgrades can be added.
Dreamcast is
a closed console as far as
processors & RAM is concerned.
Aaron
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Ihatesquirrels
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posted 09-22-2000 03:25 AM
To add fuel to the fire. When the DC was still young and PS2 had
just been unveiled, Sega made a lot of noise about the DC being
upgradable. Apparantly the Japanese launch model was DC ver.1.0, the
56k modem equipped model was ver.1.1 and that it could go up to
ver.4.X. Since then however nothing more has been said about this
supposed upgradability.
This could mean Sega scrapped the plans,
or kept them quiet so no to hurt the sales of the current version.
As for Sega going the add-on route again, I think that it is
possible to look at it 2 ways. Either Sega are making the same
mistake again, or Sega have learned from their past mistakes and
know what not to do now.
That all I have to say on the matter.
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Red
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Reg: Jan 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 05:21 AM
This is the same as the rumor that popped up for VF3 on Saturn and
Tekken 3 on PSX. Just forget you ever heard of it people. But
knowing the Sega rumors, as long as it sounds bad for them, people
will run with it.
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Red
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posted 09-22-2000 05:23 AM
That'll teach me to read all of the replies since TK Mai already
said that  .
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Caf
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Posts: 465
Reg: Dec 99 |
posted 09-22-2000 05:33 AM
When SEGA said the DC was upgradeable, I don't think they ever meant
the graphics.
They meant DVD capability, broadband, and other plug-ins.
This thread is a waste of our time -- a complete lie.
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Shinobi
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Posts: 1347
Reg: Jan 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 05:49 AM
The Saturn VF3 upgrade was confirmed by several sources, including a
SOA rep about a year ago, former head of Sega Europe Andrew Dee, and
some reps at Core Designs who was looking to use it for Tomb Raider
2. But Sega deemed it too expensive to release.
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Raistlin
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Reg: Apr 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 06:11 AM
Hypothetically . . .
This thing cost ~$95 . . . well if Sega takes off the case, the
parts are probably ~$85.
Now what if Sega sells it w/ the DC (as 1 system). $149 + $85 =
$235.
$235 for a system arguably more powerful than the PS2 or GC and
is fully backwardsly compatible w/ the DC 
To bad it will never happen 
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MrSingh
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Reg: Aug 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 06:30 AM
The DC isn't upgradeable in terms of system performance. Deal with
it.
However, Sega should consider releasing Naomi 2 in a limited
fashion, at a premium price (ala Neo Geo) and release the software
in GDROM format. The benefit of buying this system? Perfect Naomi 2
games at home, and it'll be backwards compatible with DC games.
A Naomi 2 shouldn't be that much more expensive, only 1
additional CLX2 chip, the T&L chip and additional RAM.
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Sikel
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Reg: Jun 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 06:59 AM
maybe its a DvD player..
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R.O.B.
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posted 09-22-2000 08:02 AM
If Sega decides to repeat the 32X fiasco again, they are officially
retarded. This is a stupid idea, and it would never, ever work. A
lot of things sound good on paper, but this idea, which I'm sure is
just a bunch of BS, has bomb written all over it.
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MadCat
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posted 09-22-2000 08:06 AM
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Str8Shooter
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posted 09-22-2000 08:13 AM
$235 for a system arguably more powerful than the PS2 or GC and
is fully backwardsly compatible w/ the DC
I don't think 10 million polys with 6 light sources is better
than PS2 and GC which supposedly push more polys with more light
sources.
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MjolniR
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posted 09-22-2000 08:48 AM
Str8Shooter: Supposedly is the key word there. Also, the 10 million
figure is being terribly conservative. The system can push at least
12 million with that many lights. But anyway...
This won't happen. Just wishful thinking and an effort to get
more hits to a website.
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dark1x
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posted 09-22-2000 08:54 AM
Damn, I can't read Korean
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AaronJ
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posted 09-22-2000 02:01 PM
We don't need to pay any attention to
silly rumors from some
unknown website
like this guys
I as said, the Dreamcast is NOT upgradable
in the graphics or
processor area. DC CAN
be expanded with DVD or Cable modem
or
Zipdrive or any number of expansions.
But it was established long ago that DC
cannot be upgraded.
The Saturn VF3 upgrade
was true. The Saturn could be upgraded
like the Genesis was with the 32X. Saturn, like the Genesis, had a
slot for upgrades. The cartridge slot in Saturn's case. The
Dreamcast has no such cartridge slot.
Again, the Dreamcast cannot and will not
be upraded with
Naomi2 hardware or any other processer upgrade or RAM upgrade.
That's right, the N64 could use a RAM expansion.
The Dreamcast
cant even have that.
There is no place to put a processor or
RAM upgrade on
Dreamcast.
It's impossible
SEGA has been developing a new console beyond Dreamcast for
several years. That
is what we would see next from SEGA.
Aaron
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Edge
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posted 09-22-2000 02:32 PM
Too bad.
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Dino 36
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posted 09-22-2000 03:06 PM
Maybe it will be like how they made diffrent versions of the Genny.
Maybe they'll upgrade the DC by manufacturing a new version. That
could work well.
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Lair
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Reg: May 2000 |
posted 09-22-2000 04:49 PM
Okie...i just finished searching that website to find the NAOMI2
upgrade news and found absolutely nothing about it. so this news is
a complete b.s.
some other interesting news i DID find are:
phantasy star online will be out on Dec. 21
resident evil 3 on
nov. 16
-Lair
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