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Sasuke182
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(3/18/02 2:21:37 pm)
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Adelgary, have you ever considered being BI instead of Gay?
I mean, dude poontang is amazing, and you dont have to lube it up! And kissing girls is much bettter because they're softer, i'd hate to be kissing some man with gristly facial hair and hot man breathe. yech! You should try and get with a girl man, at least be BI!

Homo Pocket
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(3/18/02 2:29:19 pm)
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Adelgary, have you ever considered being BI instead of Gay?

I'm sure he flips a coin everyday but the dammm thing keeps falling on heads.. Heads = Remain Gay Tails = Bi



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I mean, dude poontang is amazing

I've purchased the other flavors of Tang in the store before, they were good,, how is this Poon flavored Tang?

Robsmack
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(3/18/02 2:47:20 pm)
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kinda salty..

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(3/18/02 2:51:16 pm)
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BoneWagon
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(3/18/02 3:09:34 pm)
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Got some issues there? Why would you question a persons lifestyle...Have you ever considered being smart instead of being a knob? I mean being smart is fantastic! I'd rather get nods of agreement rather than looks of astonishment at how stupid you are...

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(3/18/02 3:11:43 pm)
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If you were bisexual, you'd have twice as many pound-buddies to choose from when you walk into a room. :b

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(3/18/02 3:59:58 pm)
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I shall never drink another glass of tang again.




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adelgary
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(3/18/02 8:10:38 pm)
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:lol

I have been with girls before, and I didn't like it. Hope that will make you sleep easier at night.

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"And kissing girls is much bettter because they're softer, i'd hate to be kissing some man with gristly facial hair and hot man breathe."


I have to totally disagree with you there.

Homo Pocket
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(3/18/02 8:38:25 pm)
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I have to disagree with him to....... OH f*** WAIT! Now What's everybody staring at?

ShadowRed
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(3/18/02 9:47:01 pm)
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"I have been with girls before, and I didn't like it. Hope that will make you sleep easier at night."





Dude what didn't you like about being with girls? I'm not questioning your choice or orintaion or anything, but I really can't see what it was about chicks, that you didn't like, so much that you have to go to a man to get it. Is it because the pus-sy isn't as tight as the ass is. Or do you just like to be the one who lays there and do nothing?

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(3/18/02 9:51:07 pm)
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He could ask you the same question and say "I can't really see what it was about guys that you didn't like"

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(3/18/02 10:07:36 pm)
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I'm not questioning your choice or orintaion or anything, but I really can't see what it was about chicks, that you didn't like, so much that you have to go to a man to get it.


Maybe it's Chemistry. Some people feel it with a certain gender.. I can easily understand how/why he wasn't crazy about "chicks" and felt more in tune, and got a rise out of men :)

OutlawTorn
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(3/18/02 10:39:27 pm)
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Ever stop to think that if he thought girls were so much better than guys he wouldn't be Gay?

Use your brain

BoneWagon
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(3/18/02 11:33:39 pm)
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It's obvious that this dude has an obvious problem with homosexuals.

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(3/19/02 12:16:23 am)
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Do you think it's something that could really be explained if you haven't been both gay and straight in a single lifetime? For me, it's more of a personality thing - I like the way duders are mentally and emotionally. Maybe everything started with those strong attractions, and I sort of filled in the blanks when I started thinking about sex. I like, don't like gals much at all, really. Exceptions, of course, but I just can't trust them.

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Sasuke182
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(3/19/02 9:18:43 pm)
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"kinda salty.. "

:lol

Adel...so uh you dont like how puzzy feels, or you dont like being in the company of girls? im confused.

Indys Dog
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(3/19/02 9:30:43 pm)
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he's not attracted to girls...i doubt it has much of anything to do with the feeling of a vagina versus a butthole because girls have azzholes, too. i don't understand homosexuality in the least, but it's a lot deeper than you're making it out to be

the phoenix503
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(3/19/02 9:53:47 pm)
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doubt it would make a difference............as bi girls still tend to flock to girls 9 outta 10 times, and bi me still tend to flock to....well.....men. This led me to my theory that there is no such thing as being bi and that people just say that to make up for a feeling of what they are doing is wrong(which it is not, you cant help your feelins toward something)


my point is that, in my opinoion and observation, that most people who say they are bi tend to still date their own same sex more than any other so that if adel said he was bi that really wouldnt change matters much.

Sasuke182
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(3/19/02 9:57:37 pm)
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trust me, there is such thing as being BI and liking the opposite sex much more...TRUST ME....its all about being greedy, which i can understand.

Justin C
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(3/19/02 10:12:44 pm)
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So, Sasuke you're saying that you love the cocl<

Edited by: Justin C at: 3/20/02 12:02:06 am
the phoenix503
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(3/19/02 10:13:37 pm)
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i didnt say you couldnt like both sexes. just that a bi male will seek out more males than females. lots of people that are know that are bi do this. they may be hitting on the gals and the fellas at the same time, but 9 outta 10 times(ok, 8 outta 10 to be fair) they are goin to be going home to the fellas. so, given what I know, I find it were there is a bi anything. you are either gay or not. I see being bi just a mask for who you really are and I feel you need to make a choice sooner or later in life if you ever truly want to be happy so why just make it then and there by looking at who you are bringing home the majority of the nights.

JohnnyRyall
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(3/20/02 12:10:04 am)
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Alright, I was going to stay out of this thread, but I can't do it. As a gay man, all I can tell you is that I have no interest in being with a girl. It has nothing to do with ass versus @#%$, and the assumption that it does is totally ignorant. It's the way I feel, and the way I have always felt. I can recognize female beauty, and I've fooled around with plenty of girls, but I have never been able to go that far. It's just not me. I'm not ruling out ever being with a chick, but right now I can't see it happening. Of course if you want to continue your "debate", my boyfriend says that ass is better than any @#%$ in the world, so take that for what you will. :b

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Justin C
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(3/20/02 12:15:35 am)
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Holy sh!t you're gay to? God, how many people on this forum are gay? Nothing wrong with that mind you but, I haven't seen so many gay people in the same place. I'm from a small town and I only have seen and known one gay person in real life.

Zaptrudr
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(3/20/02 12:32:08 am)
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about one in ten in this forum are queer.

The jury is still hung on Lady K :)

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Homo Pocket
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(3/20/02 12:39:18 am)
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Whoa! :eek :

JohnnyRyall
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(3/20/02 1:23:24 am)
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There are probably alot more gay people in your town than you think. Not every gay is some screaming, lisping queen (not that there's anything wrong with that). In my case, guys can never tell I'm gay, but girls always know. Most of my straight guy friends have told me at one point or another how cool it is that I don't act like a "fag". I try not to roll my eyes, but I guess if they're trying to give me a compliment, it's alright.

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(3/20/02 2:57:43 am)
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I still can't even believe I'm reading this topic and some of the responses. Is it so hard to believe that gay men prefer guys to girls? Do you go around asking girls why they aren't gay? Sounds to me like some people are insecure about their sexuality.

Also, in line with what JohnnyRyall said, most gay men act just like straight men. Of all my gay friends and aquaintances, only one is actually a "queen". A lot of people think I'm gay because I have gay friends (which I personally find a very shallow way of thinking).

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Justin C
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(3/20/02 3:00:25 am)
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At school the guys that we suspected were gay were the ones that always hanged around the girls yet didn't hang around any guys and talked about guy stuff with or never try at actually playing the sports in gym.You know one time we were playing basketball and the suspected gay guy was on our team. He would just walk and not get into it and if you threw the ball at him hard he would intentialy dodge it.

Plus they weren't dating any of the girls they hung around with or trying to hit on them so, we thought that was kinda weird. Any straight guy that always hangs around girls would obviously be trying to get some sooner or later. :D

Edited by: Justin C at: 3/20/02 3:04:05 am
halflingwizard
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(3/20/02 3:32:26 am)
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"i didnt say you couldnt like both sexes. just that a bi male will seek out more males than females. lots of people that are know that are bi do this. they may be hitting on the gals and the fellas at the same time, but 9 outta 10 times(ok, 8 outta 10 to be fair) they are goin to be going home to the fellas. so, given what I know, I find it were there is a bi anything. you are either gay or not. I see being bi just a mask for who you really are and I feel you need to make a choice sooner or later in life if you ever truly want to be happy so why just make it then and there by looking at who you are bringing home the majority of the nights."

What a load of crap. Isn't it fun to take a small sample, draw a conclusion from it, and blanket it onto everyone you can?

This is right up there with the whole 'believe in god - either way it's good, don't believe in god 50/50 bad' rhetoric. Being bi is no more about phases or masks than being gay is, which is to say that while it may be for some people, it absolutely is not for others, and no amount of bullshit statistics can make it true.

I find it really amazing that while the acceptance of gays has, as a general trend, gone up, the acceptance of bisexuals has gone down. It's all about what you find attractive. Some people find masculine traits attractive, others feminine, and still others find parts of both, or both at different times, attractive.

When people say that bisexuals are greedy (sasuke the moron) it shows jealousy of some twisted sort. When people say they are indecisive or hiding the truth, it's blind. Neither shows any level of understanding of sexual orientation at all.

"He would just walk and not get into it and if you threw the ball at him hard he would intentialy dodge it."

Chances are they weren't gay.

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(3/20/02 3:35:21 am)
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Ha ha, ever considered those guys were not into sports? I know I never was: I didn't like to hang around guys too much in high school (though my best friends were all guys) because most of my male peers were plain idiots. There's not much depth to be found in most hockey and football players...

And I wouldn't consider guys who hang around girls without hitting on them necessarily gay (though I will concede it can be suspicious). I know you can be attracted to girls, but lack the balls to take the next step. Perhaps if those girl-crazy guys hung around some guys more, there would be more pressure for them to act. I remember my friends pushed me HARD to go ask my first girl out. Yes, I was one of the shy ones.

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(3/20/02 4:00:09 am)
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Okay, this is coming from a bi male.

I find both men and women beautiful. I really can't see it any other way... I mean, if men really are ugly, as many guys believe, why do (straight) women find men attractive moreso than other women? I can see what makes a person attractive, male or female, so I find both sexes to be beautiful. Even though I find men slightly better looking than women. Isn't it simple?

Some say it's greed. I say, why should I be limited to who I can love? If I fall in love with someone, do I have to say, "I'm sorry, even though I think you're a really great person and I enjoy being with you, I can't become intimate because we're the same sex"? What a load of bullshit. That's all I have to say about that.

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halflingwizard
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(3/20/02 4:23:15 am)
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"I'm sorry, even though I think you're a really great person and I enjoy being with you, I can't become intimate because we're the same sex"

If I may make a modification to allow for bi people:

"I'm sorry, even though I think you're a really great person and I enjoy being with you, I can't become intimate because I have to choose which gender bias I like better and stick with it. Otherwise, I'm just being greedy."

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(3/20/02 5:50:39 am)
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Sman it's just not that. They act girly to if you know what I mean,even their voice has that Big Gay Al "I'm super thank's for asking" tone. Hell,I even overheard him say, "Don't go there girlfriend!" complete with the hand gesture to one of the girls he was talking to. Then he has the nerve to get all uptight when someone asks him if he's gay. Well he brung it upon himself with the way he acts.

"I detest the thought of performing anal sex on someone (I enjoy recieving it though)"

Only thinking of yourself,eh. ;)

Edited by: Justin C at: 3/20/02 5:54:11 am
norinrad21
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(3/20/02 5:58:33 am)
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who cares wether he's gay or not, its his life leave him be and move on with your own life sasuke

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(3/20/02 6:33:37 am)
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i dont think its a choice like you are putting it, i mean he IS gay, its not like he just woke up one day and thought, "hmm, i think ill do guys from now on", no one would make a choice like that since its still largely frowned upon...would u do that to ur parents? think about it...so obviously its not a choice, its who he IS and he accepts that...so should you...
personally i think if you are confused(anyone in general), you should try experimenting, otherwise u never know...i myself always thought i was bisexual, till i made out with a guy for the first time...then i realized it wasnt my thing, it was different and everything, but i'd rather be w/ a girl, i find the female form way more attractive and desirable.

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adelgary
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(3/20/02 9:56:55 am)
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7imz, you're fairly new to the forum, threads about me are not uncommon here :p

By the way, I know 7imz in real life, he's one of my best friends' little brother :)

I just finished watching Berserk, any of you who watched it would know what kind of state of mind I am in right now.

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Jshogouki
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Whoa! I'm surprised GA had so many bi's and gays :eek
My distant cousin is gay.

Personally I can't see myself ever having a same sex relationship (man to man) but I can understand why many do.

Edited by: Jshogouki at: 3/20/02 10:57:59 am
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The truth about homosexuality: If you can't handle it stop reading now because you'll become upset with what i'm about to say. If you've never truly understood homosexuality this may help. IMO this is the explanation for it and in the future it will be THE widely accepted explanation for it.




Homosexuality can result from many things that occur in people's lives. However, there are two main triggers for someone to have homosexual feelings. The first one is a profound trauma occuring in a child's life between the ages of 5-16. It's not always the same trauma but often it involves sexual abuse, terrible parental relationships, and overall disfunction of family life. When the child is raised in a certain mixture of these things they'll usually have strong homosexual feelings and tendencies and thus they are usually "stronger" in their beliefs and such.

The second type of "trigger" comes in the form of mental illness. When I use the term "mental illness" i'm not saying homsexuals are "crazy" but they are clearly thinking in an abstract and unhealthy way and thus it is a "mental illness". I would compare the homosexual feeling to that of a person who is very attracted to children. Of course it's very different from that type of attraction but it's similar in the skewed thinking that causes it. The person is aware that they are doing something out of the norm but they can't help but feel that way because of the mental issues that are causing them to feel that way. It may be a chemical imbalance or other more complicated problems. Similar to other mental conditions, it's not something that can easily be "fixed" or treated.



None of this means I have any hate or hard feelings about gay people in the world. In fact my uncle is gay and I love him with all my heart. He's a great guy and has always been one of my favorite people in my family. He lives with his "partner" and they just bought a house together. So, as i've seen gay people can live "normal" lives to a certain extent but for the most part I think many of them are socially self destructive and often find themselves in bad "relationships" more so than straight people. Those trigers for homosexuality often cause other problems that interfere with general situations as well.




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adelgary
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"IMO this is the explanation for it and in the future it will be THE widely accepted explanation for it."

Now I know where you got your tag from :p

"The Oddworld Quintology is largely influenced by the acts and practices of the corrupt greed and power mongers that have bled the world's people throughout history and continue to do so today. Truth is stranger than fiction, and when you look under the covers at many of today's multinational corporations and their feeding practices you find enough inspirational (and mind-boggling) material for a lifetime. It's also amazing how we find ourselves wound up within large webs of deceit actually supporting causes that we think we oppose. The world is an extremely complicated place. Truth has been largely removed from the front-page or the six o'clock news, and the forces of good and evil are not nearly as clear as they may have been at other times in our world's history." - Lorne Lanning

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(3/20/02 12:00:02 pm)
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The guy on THE SHIELD last night brought up the rather interesting point that if homosexuality is genetic, and we started being more accepting because of it, then what about other so-called perversions? What if the desire to have sex with dogs or 12-year-olds was also an genetic thing? Would we become more accepting of that too?

I'm pretty sure most homosexuality is genetic. You can kind of see it in some kids at an early age.....

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Somebody should do a study to discover what event caused Tiger to be....special....


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now i have seen everything :)

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(3/20/02 12:06:48 pm)
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LMFAO at Border199x! :lol



First you mention someone who completely backs up my arguement that it has nothing to do with genetics and what if people like children and the like. Then you state that homosexuality is genetic:lol A contradiction if i've ever seen one:)



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Calder Muyo
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Well, I never considered myself gay or even bi, but I have had sex with more guys than girls. Come on, it's just so damn easy to screw guys without having the whole "relationship" thing.

I enjoy(ed) sex with boys, but never formed any serious romantic attachments beyond thinking they were cute (I still notice cute guys as much as cute girls) and fun to be with. I always knew that I'd only form a deep, emotional, lasting bond with a female.

I do totally see the point that bi-sexuality is scorned on almost all sides. Straights think you're just slutty and gays tend to resent the fact that you have the "het option" and can avoid most of the stigma that open homosexuals get. I will admit though, that some bi men I've known have fallen under the 'gay 90% of the time but dates a woman when he goes to a family gathering' category, and it's tough to not question that a bit. ;)


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I just recieved about fifty phone calls last night from people went to high school with with news that a person that I graduated with came out. Well, about 99% of those phone calls were calls of disgust. I played basketball with this guy, I hung out with this guy, and never once did it cross my mind that he might be gay. Now, I was raised to be tolerant of everything and everybody, gays, straights, bi, people of different color, creed, what have you. And now I have a 'fagtag' labelled on my face because I told everyone who threw a fit about this fella being gay that I didn't care and that it's not affecting me in anyway...The stunned silence, then the retaliation: "Maybe you're gay too!" My reply, "F%ck off, now you're being ignorant." So now, accquantices and even some friends have ostracized me because I don't have a problem with gay people(or any people for that matter)

I guess the point of my story is that earlier, someone posted that being gay is becoming more acceptable, but I think that to some people, being gay means you have an infectious disease and that you are going to spread this epidemic on the world.

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SloForce 3
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I knew a gay guy once. His name was Bob, did you know him? :p

I just realized what a tiny, hick town I'm from. :)

Being kinda dumb comes easy for me, but to be truly stupid I have to put my mind to it.

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I ask those of you who disagree with me to simply consider the things I said. If you've been beaten over the head the past 10 years with the media's message that "homosexuality is not a choice" I ask you to dig deeper and come to your own conclusions. Here's a quick one for ya:



How do you explain people like Anne Heche suddenly deciding she wanted to date Ellen? She openly admitted she had never even kissed a woman befor Ellen but suddenly one night she decided she loved Ellen and began a relationship with her. She then broke up with Ellen 2 years later and just recently got married and had a kid!:lol


If you closely examine most gay people and their lives you'll discover things that back up my opinion %100. Many of them don't like to admit it but they usually "become gay" rather than "i've felt this way my whole life". If you ever talk to gay people who are VERY open about themselves almost all of them will admit that weren't "born that way".



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TIGER -- the analogy involving beastility and pedophilia neither supports nor denies that homosexuality is genetic. It questions whether or not we should be accepting of any "perversion", assuming that it is found to be a genetic trait. If people want to have sex with sheep and it is just as impossible to teach them not to have sex with sheep as it is impossible to teach a gay man to have sex with women, then maybe it's not worth reviling them so much.

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The jury is still hung on Lady K


confirmed :)

adelgary
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I would reply to tiger, but I'm way too tired now, going off to bed... I'll do that later.

"The Oddworld Quintology is largely influenced by the acts and practices of the corrupt greed and power mongers that have bled the world's people throughout history and continue to do so today. Truth is stranger than fiction, and when you look under the covers at many of today's multinational corporations and their feeding practices you find enough inspirational (and mind-boggling) material for a lifetime. It's also amazing how we find ourselves wound up within large webs of deceit actually supporting causes that we think we oppose. The world is an extremely complicated place. Truth has been largely removed from the front-page or the six o'clock news, and the forces of good and evil are not nearly as clear as they may have been at other times in our world's history." - Lorne Lanning

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Hmm, I've read your posts again Tiger, and while it exhausts me even contemplating "debating" the issue with you, I will have to say that I think you are absolutely wrong in virtually everything you've said.

It's not that I disagree with your opinion so much as I believe your opinion to be so factually incorrect on several fundamental levels that it's just not worth arguing. :) I did however want to voice my disagreement, in case anyone is keeping score.

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it would be interesting to track the percentage of people who consider themselves gay, bi, or straight over several decades or centuries. If homosexuality were genetic, you would expect the percentages to remain constant over time. On the other hand, if the percentages were to fluctuate a lot, the best explanation would be environmental influences. We would need clear definitions that wouldn't be altered over time. Anyway, that's one idea to figure out what is going on inside of homosexual people.

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Even if you had a time machine, you'd only be able to get a self-selecting sample for that study. Homosexuality has never been as accepted as it is now, and you'd have a hard time finding people willing to admit it.

Being kinda dumb comes easy for me, but to be truly stupid I have to put my mind to it.

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Calder Muyo....

Uh are you kidding yourself? Your a switch hitter, dude.

Calder Muyo
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Not really, I'm more of a utility reliever. Sure, I can fill more than one position, but I'm much happier with a steady spot in a fixed rotation. Just because I enjoy effective middle-relief doesn't mean I didn't always know that I was destined to be a closer.

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Um stop beating around the queer bush :p j/k

really, i can understand....i know plenty of greedy people...I understand its all good.

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This thread makes me realize that I should get around to having some sex.

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Slo, you know Bob too?!?!?!?!?!?


:)



Why do people care so much about other people's sex life? I think its the people who never get some, or rarely have sex.



Who cares? As long as nobody gets hurt and there is no underage crap, who gives a flying f@#!?





It always amazes me the interest people have in others lives when you find something disgusting.


I personally believe that homosexuality is genetic. Did you pick to be straight?

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norinrad21
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so where are those women with big arses at? :)

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"So, as i've seen gay people can live "normal" lives to a certain extent but for the most part I think many of them are socially self destructive and often find themselves in bad "relationships" more so than straight people. Those trigers for homosexuality often cause other problems that interfere with general situations as well."

I think you'd have a hard time demonstrating that most straight relationships aren't destructive on some level. Divorces are at an all time high right now last I heard, and it has nothing to do with homosexuality. I'm sure many people know more women who have been abused psychologically if not physically while in a straight relationship, or who've been in relationships that involved chronic cheating, than they know gay people.

Most of what you said in that post is void of any real thought, it's more anecdotal "a friend of a friend of mine" (which is what I just threw back at you above) bullshit.

Which is not to say that your conclusion is faulty, only the way you came to them. In particular, you use everything you said there as a polite put-down of people not of your orientation, calling them all abuse victims and deviants or incapable of having a productive relationship, while playing the classic "but I know a few and they're good people so don't take this the wrong way."

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Sasuke:

Sex can't be 'greedy'. 'Greed' implies taking more for yourself while leaving less for others. Sex is all about SHARING when it involves 2 or more people - though I'm sure you didn't think about it like that as that's not your standard fare.

-lisht

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Gay, bi... whatever floats your boat.

To be perfectly honest, I really don't mind homosexual and bixsexual individuals. Sometimes they act funny (in an amusing kind of way), but it isn't like I have a strong hatred for them or think they aren't human beings, or whatever. The only thing that pisses me off is like, when it comes to some gay people, when you explain that you simply aren't like that and they still begin to be flirty, it's not cool. I know of some people and also heard other stories (like we all have) of those who've gone through things like that, and nobody likes it unless they magically discover they're gay too.

Quite honestly not everyone will feel the need to get to the point where they can be able to be friends with gay people and vice-versa until some kind of guidelines are set. Perhaps if America would get out of it's @#%$, closed-minded Christian mindset when it comes to this, we'd get some progress. But in a society where it's obviously more acceptable for a little kid to see someone getting shot in the head in an action movie than seeing some girl's rack bouncing, you can forget that.

Both sides need to kind of make improvements. The straight people need to quit the anti-gay thing, and need to stop the "you're going to hell" BS, as if they are the next Jesus or something.

For gays, as I mentioned, what annoys me is like, how they will hit on straight people. If you know the person isn't gay or you don't know him at all, then don't say anything like that.

If both sides set the right example we may see some progress SOMEDAY.

I dunno. But I don't hate gays. I don't really know any gay people that well because I can't relate with them, but I still don't hate them.

But the amount of homosexuals on the forum is indeed on the rise; I've been here for two years or so, and I've never noticed as many people revealing that. Wow.

Edited by: DiablosX at: 3/20/02 11:33:02 pm
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"The only thing that pisses me off is like, when it comes to some gay people, when you explain that you simply aren't like that and they still begin to be flirty, it's not cool."

Is that different from straight people who will hit on someone, even though that person has expressed their lack of interest? Things like that happen all ways.

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lisht-you stupid or something? Im talking about being greedy as in getting it in with anyone and everything in sight. Im not like that but i can see why people would be.

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I never seen a gay guy hit on a straight guy before. I think most gays have gaydar that can pinpoint who is gay and who isn't. ;)

lisht
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I don't think you even understood what I said.

-Sex involving two or more persons is not only an act of selfishness. It's consenting - both people GIVING as much as taking - hence the whole sharing bit.. sheesh

-Personal satisfaction is necessary. Different people have different amounts of need believe it or not. Why do you think some kids jack off 5 times a day while others do only once a week or so? Are the 5 timers greedy? No. The other people just don't have the same amount of urge. It's not like you're personally repressing the urge to have sex with everything that ever comes into your line of sight.. or are you?

-lisht

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"Im talking about being greedy as in getting it in with anyone and everything in sight."

Yes, because being attracted to people of both genders obviously means you'll have sex with every single person you see, just like being straight means you'll have sex with every woman you see or being gay means you'll have sex with every man you see.

Obviously, I mean, how could anyone not see that brilliant leap of illogic as not being the truth?

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I never seen a gay guy hit on a straight guy before. I think most gays have gaydar that can pinpoint who is gay and who isn't.


Dammm, that must mean I have some type of "gaydar" scramber on me or something cause just about every person I've met in real life has assumed or almost assumed that I'm Gay.
I've gotten hit on by quite a few Gay and Bi-sexual dOods so their "gaydar" must've needed repairs :p

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Hey, Homologation Pocket, wut r u doing saturday?

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He bought me a soda, he bought me a soda, he bought me a soda
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*looks at homo pocket*

...um...

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My gaydar is pretty good! It's usually accurate, only disappointed me a few times.

"The Oddworld Quintology is largely influenced by the acts and practices of the corrupt greed and power mongers that have bled the world's people throughout history and continue to do so today. Truth is stranger than fiction, and when you look under the covers at many of today's multinational corporations and their feeding practices you find enough inspirational (and mind-boggling) material for a lifetime. It's also amazing how we find ourselves wound up within large webs of deceit actually supporting causes that we think we oppose. The world is an extremely complicated place. Truth has been largely removed from the front-page or the six o'clock news, and the forces of good and evil are not nearly as clear as they may have been at other times in our world's history." - Lorne Lanning

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Looks at Homo Pocket and slaps him on his bum!


Yeah thats what I'm talking about!!!!!!!!

::why's everyone looking at me?::



As for gay guys hitting on straight guys, it happens more than you think. My ex always got hit on by gay guys. At least every other month I would say. Especially if he had his hair long. I told him to take it like a compliment.

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Art I have questin that I always wanted to ask but never did. When did you actually know you're gay. Were you gay all your life or when reached a certain age, it hit you, "I'm gay"...

I'm the wisdom of age and the beauty of youth
I am shape substance color darkest black palest white
Speckled gold ringing mirror sharp soft and bright
I'm rage passion laughter and the need to know why
Come sample all my riches I'm pure stimuli

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adelgary
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I have been attracted to guys/men since I was a kid, in comics for example, I always thought Superman was hot :p

But of course I didn't start seriously thinking about it until my mid-teens I think. I didn't accept the idea at first, I fought it, tried REALLY hard to "convert" myself, after several failed attempts and breaking a few hearts, I realized that it's impossible and I learned to live with it... Now I am 100% happy with myself, I wouldn't want to be straight even if I had the choice... Being gay is more than sexuality, if I wasn't gay, I wouldn't be the same person you know today, my whole pesonality would be different, and I wouldn't want to be someone other than who I am now :)

"The Oddworld Quintology is largely influenced by the acts and practices of the corrupt greed and power mongers that have bled the world's people throughout history and continue to do so today. Truth is stranger than fiction, and when you look under the covers at many of today's multinational corporations and their feeding practices you find enough inspirational (and mind-boggling) material for a lifetime. It's also amazing how we find ourselves wound up within large webs of deceit actually supporting causes that we think we oppose. The world is an extremely complicated place. Truth has been largely removed from the front-page or the six o'clock news, and the forces of good and evil are not nearly as clear as they may have been at other times in our world's history." - Lorne Lanning

Edited by: adelgary at: 3/21/02 8:35:27 am
norinrad21
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First time in my life I've seen people on a message board admit they are gay. Honestly don't you gay guys think about having a family someday you know, wife and kids. I mean you could still be gay and have children too right?

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Adelgary could adopt if he wanted or if he had a female friend that wouldn't mind being artificialy insiminated with his sperm. ;)

adelgary
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norinrad21, have you been living under a rock? I've been out on this forum since day 1, which was back in 1999 I think. Infact my nickname on the UBB GA board was Gaymer.

"The Oddworld Quintology is largely influenced by the acts and practices of the corrupt greed and power mongers that have bled the world's people throughout history and continue to do so today. Truth is stranger than fiction, and when you look under the covers at many of today's multinational corporations and their feeding practices you find enough inspirational (and mind-boggling) material for a lifetime. It's also amazing how we find ourselves wound up within large webs of deceit actually supporting causes that we think we oppose. The world is an extremely complicated place. Truth has been largely removed from the front-page or the six o'clock news, and the forces of good and evil are not nearly as clear as they may have been at other times in our world's history." - Lorne Lanning

Edited by: adelgary at: 3/21/02 9:13:59 am
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Hey, Homologation Pocket, wut r u doing saturday?

Crusin da boulevard for dOods :D , wu r u doin? OR who? :p

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"my whole pesonality would be different"


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :)

I'm the wisdom of age and the beauty of youth
I am shape substance color darkest black palest white
Speckled gold ringing mirror sharp soft and bright
I'm rage passion laughter and the need to know why
Come sample all my riches I'm pure stimuli

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Adelgary, I think it's cool that you are open with us about being gay. Back where I grew up, if you even mentioned or did anything remotely abstract from the norm, you were ostracized from being the one of the 'cool' kids. Luckily, my group of friends and I didn't really care about being in the crowd but still. If it's not too personal a question, what were your high school days like?

I recently went back to my old town for a class reunion, and I tell you, nothing has changed; The cool kids are still trying to be cool, me, being the punk rock loser that I am stayed for 20 minutes, lipped off my nemesis from HS, got into a fight, went to the bar, got drunk and slept with some chick I remember having a jones for in High school. Anyways, one of the reasons I left is that when a friend of mine, who most recently came out, entered the room, the whole crowd shushed and stared at him like he was missing his legs...shite, he should be so lucky he was missing his legs...at least he wouldn't have been gay...So we left and I got drunk and he drove me home. Oh well, were the kids understanding where you went to school? Or were they knobs like my former classmates.

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adelgary
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I wasn't out in high school, I came out publically in university.

I've always been very popular and loved from everyone around me (thank goodness :) ), and that didn't change one bit after I came out, I have wonderful friends.

"I can't live simply because I was born. I want to live because I have a dream." - Griffith, Berserk.

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When